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==Template links are so so== |
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The links in this template are so so. Some get redirected, and some only link to general info on the topics. In my opinion, there should be no redirects, and no link should go to a general subject matter page instead of the page of the actual Roundtable. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
The links in this template are so so. Some get redirected, and some only link to general info on the topics. In my opinion, there should be no redirects, and no link should go to a general subject matter page instead of the page of the actual Roundtable. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Things are missing == |
== Things are missing == |
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Things are missing from this template, like ALA creations: |
Things are missing from this template, like ALA creations: |
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* [[Book Links]] <span style="color:green;">--at Booklist today I added See also: Book Links; no other action</span> |
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*[[Book Links]] |
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*[[Booklist]] |
* <s>[[Booklist]]</s> (done long ago?) |
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*[[Banned Books Week]] |
* <s>[[Banned Books Week]]</s> (done) |
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*[[Library Bill of Rights]] |
* <s>[[Library Bill of Rights]]</s> <span style="color:green;">--done today</span> |
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*Awards, like Newbery, Caldecott, etc. |
* <s>Awards, like Newbery, Caldecott, etc.</s> <span style="color:green;">(done long ago) -P64</span> |
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*Etc. |
* Etc. |
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Just my two tuppence. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
Just my two tuppence. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
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: That problem should be revisited. |
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: See category {{cl|American Library Association}} and consider each of its member articles for inclusion here. --[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 20:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC) |
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::Above see my update (<span style="color:green;">green</span>). Today I added also [[Public Libraries (journal)]] and [[US vs ALA]]. See the category for other possibilities. |
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::At a glance and as an ignorant outsider, I see [a] people, [b] minor divisions/groups, [c] [[National Library Week]] and [[John Cotton Dana Award]] whose length shows that they are not important ;-) |
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::--[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 21:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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The links to the discussion page of the template are not correct either. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
The links to the discussion page of the template are not correct either. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 07:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
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: The name defined internally (name=) needs to match the name of the template (pagename). -P64 2012-06-18 |
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⚫ | The template links to the Round Tables are all incorrect - they don't link to round tables, but to the root phrases (Library Research Round Table --> Library Research, which is a redirect, which points to a deleted article). These incorrect links show up in every article where the template is used. I propose either unlinking the Round Table Wikilinks, or creating target articles for each and correcting the pointers. [[User talk:Chuckiesdad|Chuckiesdad]] 02:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
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: I don't think individual articles for individual units of the ALA is really encyclopedic. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 03:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> |
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==Awards== |
==Awards== |
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The ALA gets a lot of press every year when it announces the award winners. I wa prticularly impressed this year when the Newbery and Caldecott Medal winners were announced. I have cince learned that the ALA gives out LOTS of awards, but Wikipedia does not yet seem to have a concise orderly way of rpesenting that information. There is short section regarding the awards on the ALA page, and I've recently added a much larger section on awards to the Children's Services page, but I think it would be appropriate to add links to the pages regarding the various awards in the template. -[[User:ErinHowarth|ErinHowarth]] ([[User talk:ErinHowarth|talk]]) 20:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
The ALA gets a lot of press every year when it announces the award winners. I wa prticularly impressed this year when the Newbery and Caldecott Medal winners were announced. I have cince learned that the ALA gives out LOTS of awards, but Wikipedia does not yet seem to have a concise orderly way of rpesenting that information. There is short section regarding the awards on the ALA page, and I've recently added a much larger section on awards to the Children's Services page, but I think it would be appropriate to add links to the pages regarding the various awards in the template. -[[User:ErinHowarth|ErinHowarth]] ([[User talk:ErinHowarth|talk]]) 20:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Agree. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 20:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
:Agree. --[[User:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|LegitimateAndEvenCompelling]] ([[User talk:LegitimateAndEvenCompelling|talk]]) 20:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I didn't wait for any kind of concensus. I got tired of trying to navigate all the award pages and I made the addition today. Please feel free to make further edits. -[[User:ErinHowarth|ErinHowarth]] ([[User talk:ErinHowarth|talk]]) 21:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC) |
::I didn't wait for any kind of concensus. I got tired of trying to navigate all the award pages and I made the addition today. Please feel free to make further edits. -[[User:ErinHowarth|ErinHowarth]] ([[User talk:ErinHowarth|talk]]) 21:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Today I renamed the group from Awards to "Literary '''Awards and''' Honors" and rearranged/extended it with three subgroups "Books for adults", "for Children and Young Adults", and "Book lists". The latter covers [[ALA Notable Books]], which is new to the template, and two articles from the former Awards group that actually cover book lists. (Best Books for YA is another annual list. Booklist Editor's Choice may be another. Neither one has its own article here. See [[Talk: ALA Notable Books#More ALA lists]]) ... I see YALSA lists nearly ten '''Book/Media Lists''' intermingled with its Book Awards.[http://www.ala.org/yalsa/booklistsawards/booklistsbook] |
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::: At the same time, I added another award not covered by any article (Brody), so this navbox group now names three of those. One of them is "Nonfiction YA", which I added previously. Evidently that is an award waiting for a wealthy sponsor. Its full name is Nonfiction for Young Adults Award. |
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::: What was the ordering principle? I didn't see any except, I presume, that Newbery and Caldecott were first listed because they are most important. Beside subdividing I have provided some more order to the long Ch/YA subgroup by listing the four strictly YA awards at the end, preceded by the two audio and video awards. --[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 20:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC) |
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Template links are so so
[edit]The links in this template are so so. Some get redirected, and some only link to general info on the topics. In my opinion, there should be no redirects, and no link should go to a general subject matter page instead of the page of the actual Roundtable. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 07:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Things are missing
[edit]Things are missing from this template, like ALA creations:
- Book Links --at Booklist today I added See also: Book Links; no other action
Booklist(done long ago?)Banned Books Week(done)Library Bill of Rights--done todayAwards, like Newbery, Caldecott, etc.(done long ago) -P64- Etc.
Just my two tuppence. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 07:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- That problem should be revisited.
- See category Category:American Library Association and consider each of its member articles for inclusion here. --P64 (talk) 20:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Above see my update (green). Today I added also Public Libraries (journal) and US vs ALA. See the category for other possibilities.
- At a glance and as an ignorant outsider, I see [a] people, [b] minor divisions/groups, [c] National Library Week and John Cotton Dana Award whose length shows that they are not important ;-)
- --P64 (talk) 21:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Links are not correct
[edit]- this Talk page Resolved
The links to the discussion page of the template are not correct either. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 07:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- The name defined internally (name=) needs to match the name of the template (pagename). -P64 2012-06-18
- ALA Round Tables
The template links to the Round Tables are all incorrect - they don't link to round tables, but to the root phrases (Library Research Round Table --> Library Research, which is a redirect, which points to a deleted article). These incorrect links show up in every article where the template is used. I propose either unlinking the Round Table Wikilinks, or creating target articles for each and correcting the pointers. Chuckiesdad 02:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think individual articles for individual units of the ALA is really encyclopedic. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 03:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps the round table links should go to the external links that are the web faces of the round tables themselves. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 03:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe I'll just do it. See if you like it when I'm done. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 03:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 03:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Awards
[edit]The ALA gets a lot of press every year when it announces the award winners. I wa prticularly impressed this year when the Newbery and Caldecott Medal winners were announced. I have cince learned that the ALA gives out LOTS of awards, but Wikipedia does not yet seem to have a concise orderly way of rpesenting that information. There is short section regarding the awards on the ALA page, and I've recently added a much larger section on awards to the Children's Services page, but I think it would be appropriate to add links to the pages regarding the various awards in the template. -ErinHowarth (talk) 20:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Agree. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't wait for any kind of concensus. I got tired of trying to navigate all the award pages and I made the addition today. Please feel free to make further edits. -ErinHowarth (talk) 21:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Today I renamed the group from Awards to "Literary Awards and Honors" and rearranged/extended it with three subgroups "Books for adults", "for Children and Young Adults", and "Book lists". The latter covers ALA Notable Books, which is new to the template, and two articles from the former Awards group that actually cover book lists. (Best Books for YA is another annual list. Booklist Editor's Choice may be another. Neither one has its own article here. See Talk: ALA Notable Books#More ALA lists) ... I see YALSA lists nearly ten Book/Media Lists intermingled with its Book Awards.[1]
- At the same time, I added another award not covered by any article (Brody), so this navbox group now names three of those. One of them is "Nonfiction YA", which I added previously. Evidently that is an award waiting for a wealthy sponsor. Its full name is Nonfiction for Young Adults Award.
- What was the ordering principle? I didn't see any except, I presume, that Newbery and Caldecott were first listed because they are most important. Beside subdividing I have provided some more order to the long Ch/YA subgroup by listing the four strictly YA awards at the end, preceded by the two audio and video awards. --P64 (talk) 20:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't wait for any kind of concensus. I got tired of trying to navigate all the award pages and I made the addition today. Please feel free to make further edits. -ErinHowarth (talk) 21:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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