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this seems like just a blatant placement/advertisement for these firms, as this argument could be made for almost any company's naming development, particularly technology-based ones or consulting firms that cover a wide variety of services ([[Microsoft]] = [[microchip]]+[[software]], [[Macromedia]] = [[Macro (computer science)|macros]]+[[multimedia]], etc. etc.). none of these company names are terms that are "in the process of entering common use, but [have] not yet been accepted into mainstream language," as a company's name is either recognized by someone or not, there is no "acceptance" of a company name unless it's also an actual neologism, like "laser corporation" or whatever. i could not find anything reliable about using any of these names colloquially to be referential or indicative of the varied work they do; thus, i've [[WP:BOLD]]edly removed them. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Impasse|Impasse]] ([[User talk:Impasse|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Impasse|contribs]]) 18:54, 9 April 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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* [http://www.langmaker.com/db/Langmaker:About Langmaker.com], a regularly updated directory of over 1,100 invented languages and neographies. |
* [http://www.langmaker.com/db/Langmaker:About Langmaker.com], a regularly updated directory of over 1,100 invented languages and neographies. |
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According to the root link, http://www.langmaker.com, the '''[[Langmaker]]''' website has been "temporarily" disabled. It is moved here so that it may be checked from time to time to see if it has been re-enabled. Then it may be added back to the article. – '''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>''''' <sup |
According to the root link, http://www.langmaker.com, the '''[[Langmaker]]''' website has been "temporarily" disabled. It is moved here so that it may be checked from time to time to see if it has been re-enabled. Then it may be added back to the article. – '''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>''''' <sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 19:28, 14 December 2013 (UTC) |
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It's interesting to note that the Langmaker site has been archived. The web archive is at: |
It's interesting to note that the Langmaker site has been archived. The web archive is at: |
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* [http://archive.is/nPRTx Langmakers Main Page] from June 2008 |
* [http://archive.is/nPRTx Langmakers Main Page] from June 2008 |
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Apparently, the wiki-ish website is down for the count. These archived pages are searchable and might still prove useful. |
Apparently, the wiki-ish website is down for the count. These archived pages are searchable and might still prove useful. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Paine Ellsworth|Paine Ellsworth]] ([[User talk:Paine Ellsworth#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paine Ellsworth|contribs]]) 00:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign --> |
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Here it is called a symptom of a thought disorder. |
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But i can tell you what the real problem is: when you haven't got a normed language and people |
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chatter chaotically with each other, language will change and decay over time. |
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Just like everyone will start to believe crap. And that's what a thought disorder actually is. |
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When you aren't in contact with the source in form of a good dictionary or consistent language |
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use on TV, you will probably be considered as odd. |
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But portals like Facebook make everyone a moron, they just don't notice because they're all conform. |
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Using language creatively will not make it richer. It will ruin the semantics and in fact make |
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it empty when you exaggerate it. Afterwards, you'll have like 50 synonyms for the same object. |
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I guess that's exactly what is currently happening on the Internet very quickly. |
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Someone wrote in his tag line: "Who finds spelling mistakes can keep them." |
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Also, when someone like me writes in English as a foreign language over the Internet and makes mistakes, |
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it will ruin the English language over time because the mistakes will be remembered by |
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natively English-speaking people. |
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I'm just pondering about my old German-Italian dictionary from Langenscheidt and wondering |
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what already happened to your language. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/93.201.11.196|93.201.11.196]] ([[User talk:93.201.11.196|talk]]) 02:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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neological (adjective) |
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== Neologisms good or bad ? == |
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# Of or pertaining to [[neology]] |
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# Of or pertaining to [[neologicism]] (modern [[logicism]] which accepts the difference between proof, substantiality and experimental axiomatic systems). |
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[[Special:Contributions/2A02:2149:8B83:6500:7813:142C:413A:4290|2A02:2149:8B83:6500:7813:142C:413A:4290]] ([[User talk:2A02:2149:8B83:6500:7813:142C:413A:4290|talk]]) 08:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Nevertheless == |
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New notions are evoling in science. We cannot use long polylectic terms in huge texts. The point is to add with some official methodology, and to create an Anglophone Institute like the French did. |
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The current page states "is any newly formed word, term, or phrase that nevertheless has achieved popular or institutional recognition and is becoming accepted into mainstream language". Nevertheless what? It isn't clear even in the initial edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neologism&oldid=1158732740 |
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[[Robert Sapolsky]] has made studies for extremely ''open to change people'' and ''extremely conservative to old-known notions''. Both extremes are connected with mental health problems. Go to the Stanford University official page and ask if you can help us set a new behavioral experiment. |
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It's a bit odd that an article around linguistics has held a semantically meaningless summary for a year. I have no formal background in the field and hesitate to correct the grammar as I'm quite certain I'll fall foul of the classic trope. Youse lot generally think ussins need to wise the bap, so I'll houl me wisht. |
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== Scope of example list == |
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[[User:BeardedChimp|BeardedChimp]] ([[User talk:BeardedChimp|talk]]) 18:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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A list of words and phrases which at one point were neologisms (ie. "in the process of entering common use, but [not yet] accepted into mainstream language") would be a list of every word in the dictionary, wouldn't it? Should the list of example neologisms be explicitly restricted to those which are "directly attributable to a specific person, publication, period, or event", and described as such? --[[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 16:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC) |
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[edit]The following recently deleted link is moved here:
- Langmaker.com, a regularly updated directory of over 1,100 invented languages and neographies.
According to the root link, http://www.langmaker.com, the Langmaker website has been "temporarily" disabled. It is moved here so that it may be checked from time to time to see if it has been re-enabled. Then it may be added back to the article. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 19:28, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
It's interesting to note that the Langmaker site has been archived. The web archive is at:
- Archive.IS
- Langmaker's "About" page, the link that was deleted
- Langmakers Main Page from June 2008
Apparently, the wiki-ish website is down for the count. These archived pages are searchable and might still prove useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paine Ellsworth (talk • contribs) 00:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
create page: neologicism
[edit]neological (adjective)
- Of or pertaining to neology
- Of or pertaining to neologicism (modern logicism which accepts the difference between proof, substantiality and experimental axiomatic systems).
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[edit]The current page states "is any newly formed word, term, or phrase that nevertheless has achieved popular or institutional recognition and is becoming accepted into mainstream language". Nevertheless what? It isn't clear even in the initial edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neologism&oldid=1158732740
It's a bit odd that an article around linguistics has held a semantically meaningless summary for a year. I have no formal background in the field and hesitate to correct the grammar as I'm quite certain I'll fall foul of the classic trope. Youse lot generally think ussins need to wise the bap, so I'll houl me wisht.
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