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''Archived discussion for [[January 2009]] from [[Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates]].''

==January 31==
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===ITN candidates for January 31===
*[[2009 Southern Australia heat wave]] - This is considered the worst heat wave in Southern Australia since records began. Australian sources state that no one has died of heat-related causes, but overseas sources say anywhere from 2 to 31 people have died, but the local authorities state that none of these have been confirmed. I'm inclined to value the quality of the source in the country of origin from the Ambulance and medical authorities themselves. Needless to say this story qualifies for ITN inclusion. [[User:Nick carson|Nick carson]] ([[User talk:Nick carson|talk]]) 05:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
: The article is in a good shape. Please, suggest a wording. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 20:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Can we please use the updated wording on the main page? [[User:Nick carson|Nick carson]] ([[User talk:Nick carson|talk]]) 03:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

*Does someone want to add more prose to [[2009 Australian Open]]? It's on [[WP:ITNSPORTS]], and results for womens singles are out now. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:29, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

*I was thinking Australia was a bit neglected... now two in a row... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 19:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry. Once the tennis thing goes up, people will be complaining about bias. It's typical. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::even though australians wont win the open u will see many posts against it lol. [[Special:Contributions/99.237.101.160|99.237.101.160]] ([[User talk:99.237.101.160|talk]]) 21:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Hey, we had allegations of U.S. biaz about the [[America's Cup]] so... &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 01:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Well I'm not a huge tennis fan but I'd say it makes perfect sense that the [[Grand Slam (tennis)|Grand Slam]]s get included. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 03:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

*If Australia can do it then why not Kenya too... double the deaths in this rather gruesome incident. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 03:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
** Over 50 people are killed and 82 critically injured following an '''[[2009 Kenyan oil spill ignition|oil spillage ignition]]''' in [[Molo, Kenya|Molo]], [[Kenya]].
**Correction: The death toll has risen to 111 according to the astonishing BBC report I've just witnessed. :O --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 04:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::But, as I can find no online ref for that increase yet, I say leave it at the original "over 50" and I'll notify if I can find a change. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 04:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 05:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Sky and Radio New Zealand sources now saying 111 deaths. Please change if you're reading this and able to do so. I shall assist by leaving a screaming edit summary in the hope that it attracts attention. Thank you. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 09:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Please don't. It only annoys us. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] ([[User talk:Golbez|talk]]) 09:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Sorry for waking you. I'll bear that in mind in future. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 15:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

*[[Somali presidential election, 2009]]: Somalia has a new president, [[Sharif Ahmed]]! Wording: [[Sharif Ahmed]] is '''[[Somali presidential election, 2009|elected]]''' [[President of Somalia|President]] of [[Somalia]] in an [[indirect election]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
: I suggest mentioning that it's held in [[Djibouti]].  This is probably a [[government-in-exile]], after the [[Siege of Baidoa|Islamists captured Baidoa]] a few days ago, and won't really rule in Somalia. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 21:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::Is this better? Wording: After an [[indirect election]] held in [[Djibouti]],  [[Sharif Ahmed]] is '''[[Somali presidential election, 2009|elected]]''' [[President of Somalia|President]] of [[Somalia]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 04:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==January 30==
{{Portal:Current events/2009 January 30}}
===ITN candidates for January 30===
*'''[[Qimonda]]''', the world's fifth-largest manufacturer of [[DRAM]] chips whose end would [http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/jan09/7569 "certainly weaken if not cripple Europe's largest semiconductor cluster"], declared [[insolvency]] (or filed for [[bankruptcy]], according to some sources: [http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djhighlights/200901231119DOWJONESDJONLINE000696.htm]). Sources do not agree whether it is insolvency or bankruptcy, which are not the same. However the company filed for it on 23 Jan - Is it too late to consider this for ITN now? --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 11:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:Who gets to decide how late? Is there is a rule or is it just as long as somebody agrees? --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 12:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Slightly older items can be posted lower on ITN's bullet list, and it will be removed sooner as the conveyer belt proceeds down. Pope Benedict, the oldest current item, was nommed and posted on the 24th though, so it's borderline. I didn't see a rule in [[WP:ITNMP]] and any admin can post an item without discussion first, but s/he must have very good reasons if it's likely to be questionable for any reason, as any admin can remove it too. [[User:TransUtopian|TransUtopian]] ([[User talk:TransUtopian|talk]]) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Hm, if the sources are not consistent what happened, I'd prefer waiting. Though it's a bit, we have newer items featured already. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: When a new item about some old news gets onto ITN, it gets itself bumped off because it's the oldest news, then you know it's too late.  So we don't need a written rule at WP:ITNMP on this, eh?  On this note, I wonder if we need sth about the war in Somalia soon ([[Siege of Baidoa|Islamist forces captured Baidoa]] on Jan.26th, forcing the [[Transitional Federal Government]] to flee to [[Djibouti]]....), before this is too late for ITN.  --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 21:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

*'''Nakamutt fire'''
:* At least 14 people are killed and 47 reported missing following a '''[[2009 Nakumatt supermarket fire|massive fire]]''' at a supermarket in downtown [[Nairobi]], [[Kenya]].
::* One I've updated for later. As its only just been reported I think I've got all the information that's available but I'll leave that up to whoever views it. The police appear to be investigating reports that people were purposefully prevented from escaping which probably increases its notability. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 14:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::: The article is in good shape. I'd like some more comments before posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Posting. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

* '''Mount Redoubt (Alaska)'''
:* '''[[Mount Redoubt (Alaska)|Mount Redoubt]]''', a [[volcano]] near [[Anchorage, Alaska]] that has been [[dormant]] for nineteen years, is showing signs of an eruption, with [[Volcano tectonic earthquake|volcanic earthquake]]s occurring every hour. 
-- [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 16:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:That sounds like just one to watch for now as, until it at least does erupt, I would think there are more ITN-worthy items between yesterday and today. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, you are probably right. [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 19:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually, if this is put on the main page, I feel I should be given credit. I largely expanded the article over the course of the past several weeks, and have generally kept it in shape since it passed [[Talk:Mount Redoubt (Alaska)/GA1|its GA review]]. Plus, the recent sources added to the article were improperly formatted and disrupted the article's proper structure. [[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#000000">'''Ceran'''</font>]][[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#000080"><sup>→</sup>//</font>]][[User:Ceranthor/forge|forge]] 20:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I think you'd get credit anyway. ITN credits, just like DYKs, go to nominators and main contributors. Anyway, I didn't mean to step on your toes, I just thought that it was an important news item that was suitable for ITN. As for not formatting the refs, I did intend to format them but got distracted by RL. Apologies. [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 21:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC) 

*'''[[Effects of the 2008-9 Global Financial Crisis on Museums]]'''
:*[[Brandeis University]] announces that it will close the [[Rose Art Museum]] and [[Collection_(museum)#Deaccessioning|deaccession]] its entire collection.
--I'm not sure how to fit the article I just created into the hook.... [[User:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">Litho</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#464646">derm</FONT></b>]] 20:03, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Is the museum itself important enough for ITN? Perhaps the article you've created would be more suitable for [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]]? --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 20:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::: This is probably a better candidate for DYK, indeed. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 29==
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===ITN candidates for January 29===
[[File:Blagojevich.jpg|100x100px|right|Rod Blagojevich]] 
*The [[Illinois]] [[Illinois Senate|Senate]] votes unanimously to '''[[Rod Blagojevich corruption charges|remove]]''' [[Governor of Illinois|Governor]] [[Rod Blagojevich]] from office and bar him from holding future office in the state. [http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/01/blagojevich-to-give-impeachment-speech-in-a-few-hours.html (''Chicago Tribune'')] 
**'''Support'''. I'm OK with the Iceland thing, but if we can have a change of government in a country of 300,000, we should have the highly remarkable removal from office of a governor of a state of 12 million. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 23:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

:::<s>Any reason that a questionable Blagojevich item went up without even a mention here, not to mention consensus? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)</s> Wow, I missed the above. I am hiding (not removing) the Blagojevich item because the only updated part of the article I see is the intro, but there also needs to be a body paragraph about this, with refs. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree, we need a lot more consensus on this before it goes up. Also, Mwalcoff, it's a bit more than numbers. After all, as you said yourself, you're comparing a state with a country. [[User:Master of Puppets|<span style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:move;">'''M'''aster '''o'''f '''P'''uppets</span>]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|<sub style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:help;">Call me MoP! :D</sub>]] 00:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)  ,
:::::I wouldn't know where to look for it, but I recall that when he was first arrested, then impeached, the consensus was "Wait until the final Senate vote."  Well, here it is.  -- The original poster, [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] ([[User talk:Fishal|talk]]) 00:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think the impeachment of the first US state governor in 20 years is sufficiently notable for ITN. It is a lead article on CNN, BBC, IHT and Reuters. I agree with Spencer that there should be a reference body paragraph in addition to the intro. (Otherwise the article is lopsided, updating the intro but having no significant mention of the current outcome in the body.) [[User:TransUtopian|TransUtopian]] ([[User talk:TransUtopian|talk]]) 01:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::'''Support''' I just added some refs to the [[WP:LEAD]].  Check out the edit count  and make sure I get a credit on my talk page. On my first ITN, I got overlooked at first.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 01:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::'''Support'''.  Very far from a routine occurence.  An involuntary change in leadership of the fifth largest US state is certainly significant.  Coverage in international press is prominent and demonstrates the broad interest.  [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] ([[User talk:Dragons flight|talk]]) 01:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Removal of a "provincial" head is significant??
:::Okay, we have stuff in the lead, but we still need info in the article- a paragraph of prose with refs. Once this has been accomplished, I will unhide. Currently, I just see a one-sentence mention. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 01:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::We already have three paragraphs in the body devoted to the impeachment trial over the last three days.  I suppose one could add information about the reaction, aftermath, etc., but personally, I'd say the coverage of the trial proceedings is sufficient to meet ITN criteria.  [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] ([[User talk:Dragons flight|talk]]) 02:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::And said paragraphs have ample refs.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] ([[User talk:Fishal|talk]]) 02:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm waiting for an admin to say it still lacks something else so that the day passes which means this is not news anymore. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 06:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Since we said last time that we should wait for the vote, this can go up now (when the article is ok). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:(<--)I have unhidden now, per above comments and generally better-expanded article about the event. If someone wants to upload the photo... '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 11:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Can we say he is a [[Democratic Party (United States)|Democrat]]? We can amend "bar him from holding future office in the state" into "disqualify him from political office" so adding his political party would only had 5 letters. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Why? We didn't mention Obama was a Democrat either time. What makes his party more significant? I can't be bothered looking back that far but I'm doubtful we mentioned Bush was a Republican. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 12:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I think we've put party affiliation for crises in other countries (Thai political crisis). Check: [[Wikipedia:ITN_in_2008#November]], and we did put Obama's political affiliation on his election, but not inauguration. I'm not sure though, that his party is exactly significant. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::When didn't put Obama's party initially (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=249789818]), it was added later which was why I got confused. I don't think there's much point comparing to parliamentry democracies, in that case the party is significant since the PM's position is usually dependent on what party he or she belongs to and in many ways is often a representative of that party rather then simply an individual, as they are not directly elected. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 12:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The fact that the IL Senate has a Democratic majority makes it significant. [[Special:Contributions/119.95.23.57|119.95.23.57]] ([[User talk:119.95.23.57|talk]]) 13:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Why? There's no suggestion I'm aware of that the Illinois Senate acted in any way inapproriately or that they were in collusion with him so I don't really get the connection. The fact that the Illinois Senate is the same party as this guy may suggest it not some sort of partisan hackjob but this is arguably far better shown by the fact that it was a unanimous vote. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 07:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

* Do we have anything about protests in Madagascar? [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7857778.stm] This looks big. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::44 deaths is a lot for some protests. If there's a good article, I support. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't realize that Blago was that popular in Madagascar. :) [[User:Lovelac7|<span style="font-family:times new roman, times; color:#000064;">Lovelac</span>]][[User:Lovelac7|<span style="font-family:times new roman, times; color:#AA0000;">'''7'''</span>]] 11:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Here it is. And here's a line: At least 68 people are killed in anti-government '''[[2009 Madagascar protests|protests]]''' in [[Madagascar]]. I'll see what I can find to add to it. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 12:48, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Johanna sigurdardottir official portrait.jpg|100px|right|Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir]]
* '''[[Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir]]''' is appointed [[Prime minister of Iceland|prime minister]] of [[Iceland]] following the collapse of the previous coalition government. She becomes the first openly [[gay]] [[head of government]] in the world.
::Source: [http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/29/Iceland_has_worlds_1st_openly_gay_leader/UPI-62291233245912/]. Can be merged with the existing item on the govt. collapse as needed. [[User:Radagast|Radagast]] ([[User talk:Radagast|talk]]) 17:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::: The article is updated just partially. When this is fixed, a certain ITN, combining with the previous blurb. By the way, shall we mention her being gay or not? I am indifferent on this one. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 17:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Should be fully updated now, I think. I would like her sexuality mentioned for its historic value, but that's one editor's opinion. [[User:Radagast|Radagast]] ([[User talk:Radagast|talk]]) 18:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: I think this is trivial info that would steal away the focus about the real event. I know WP is not censored. It is up to the admins to decide. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 19:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Looks like we have to put the brakes on this for now; she has not yet been put in, my original source was misleading. (Article has been corrected.) Sorry for the confusion. [[User:Radagast|Radagast]] ([[User talk:Radagast|talk]]) 20:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, she won't become PM before 31 January now, and even that date is not 100% certain. I would support an ITN entry when the event actually happens: she is Iceland's first female PM, regardless of her sexuality. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::New Iceland PM (once she's installed) is definitely ITN. I think it's worth noting in the headline that she's the world's first openly gay head of government if the reaction to that is expanded. It's no big deal (which I love) in Iceland politics, but it's significant to the rest of the world. [[User:TransUtopian|TransUtopian]] ([[User talk:TransUtopian|talk]]) 01:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Definite support if updated. A lot of firsts here as well as a new leader which seems to be enough to make ITN anyway. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 12:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Don't list it unless you plan to create headlines for every new head of state. Don't mention she's a woman unless you plan to note the sex, male or female, of every new president or prime minister. Don't point out she's lesbian unless you intend to draw attention to the sexuality, gay, straight or otherwise, of every new national leader. Create a consistent editorial policy and stick to it; to do otherwise makes a 'freak show' of the accomplishments of minorities. --[[User:Blake the bookbinder|Blake the bookbinder]] ([[User talk:Blake the bookbinder|talk]]) 17:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Actually, we do list every new head of state, apart from those of a few very small Pacific Island nations (and we might list those if someone pointed them out in time, and we had decent articles on the new leaders). We will mention her gender because she's the first female PM for the country. We would mention the gender of the first male PM for a country too, I think. The same argument would appear reasonable for her sexual orientation. Please find an example where the first openly-straight PM was elected for a country with a long line of gay PM's, and we'll discuss why we failed to mention their orientation.-[[User talk:gadfium|<span style="font-family:cursive; color:#808080;">gadfium</span>]] 18:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::We should definitely mention her sexual orientation given that she's the first in the world. It's IMHO far more significant then being female, yes it's the first in Iceland but there have been a number of female head's of government already. In any case, we already have a precedent with Obama, that NY governor and likely a few cases I can't remember (did we have Manmohan Singh?) so changing now surely requires wider discussion. Incidentally women aren't a [[minority group]] in numerical terms. P.S. If it's not the case that most sources mention her being the first gay/lesbian head of government I will reconsider but I doubt that will be the case. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 12:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like this is for tomorrow now [http://mbl.is/mm/frettir/innlent/2009/01/31/stjornin_myndud_a_morgun/]: I'll update the article this evening (to give them time to change their minds again!). "Appointed" is the verb used in the [http://www.government.is/constitution/ official translation of the Icelandic Constitution] (Art.&nbsp;15). [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 12:52, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Scheduled for 13:00 UTC [http://mbl.is/mm/frettir/innlent/2009/02/01/ingibjorg_a_bessastadi_i_dag/]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 10:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep, her gender/orientation should really be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/119.95.23.57|119.95.23.57]] ([[User talk:119.95.23.57|talk]]) 13:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
* <s>The [[Illinois]] [[Illinois Senate|Senate]] votes unanimously to [[Rod Blagojevich corruption charges|remove]] [[Governor of Illinois|Governor]] [[Rod Blagojevich]] from office and bar him from holding future office in the state.
	 
::This is a bit different; the above item has already been featured by [[User:Keegan|Keegan]], but it was not discussed before addition. As we've had controversy in the past about featuring Blagojevich items, I was wondering what the community says. I'm not going to remove it without hearing from you guys first. Thanks a ton, [[User:Master of Puppets|<span style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:move;">'''M'''aster '''o'''f '''P'''uppets</span>]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|<sub style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:help;">Call me MoP! :D</sub>]] 00:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)</s> <small>crossing out because it's being discussed at the top of this day [[User:Master of Puppets|<span style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:move;">'''M'''aster '''o'''f '''P'''uppets</span>]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|<sub style="color:#7d7d7d;cursor:help;">Call me MoP! :D</sub>]] 00:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)</small>


*'''Nominate''' the '''[[2009 Madagascar protests]]'''.  This is one of the world's largest conflicts this week, but it has received very little coverage.  [[User:Scanlan|Scanlan]] ([[User talk:Scanlan|talk]]) 02:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
: The article is a bit short but informative enough. Support. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Strong support and cheers to the users for taking up with this article. I would spare sometime later today to work on this. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 11:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::: I think this one has sufficient support. I can post it as soon as there is no more merging issue (there are two similar articles at the moment). And I'd like a good wording as well. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I left one above where it was previously discussed. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 19:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Ok, posting. Please, fix the merge issue. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 19:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Done! ;) --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 19:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 28==
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==January 27==
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===ITN candidates for January 27===
* The 8th President of [[India]], [[Ramaswamy Venkataraman]] dies at 98. [[User:TouLouse|TouLouse]] ([[User talk:TouLouse|talk]]) 11:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Ramaswamy Venkataraman#Death]] needs some expansion, and for deaths, the whole article needs to be filled in. There's two blank headers that need to be filled in before this even could have consideration. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC) 

*[[Patriarch-Elect Kirill of Moscow]] becomes Patriarch-Elect of Moscow. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I see an update to the article. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Not much of an update yet. This one is for consideration, he'll become the partiarch next week. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

*is there any article on the octuplets out there. I think it will be very interesting addition to ITN since its first time babies survived and there were only supposed to be 7. [[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 23:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
**We do have [[2009 octuplets]]. However the [[Chukwu octuplets]] appear to have all survived birth. One died a week later but as it hasn't been a week for this recent set yet, it's seemingly not clear yet that there's anything unique about this compared to the previous case. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 02:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::i still think we should post this seeing as how "insanely" rare this is and first time in almost 11 years. wikipedia ITN wasnt even around back then. [[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 07:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Support. This rare event is of encyclopedic value. According to [[List of multiple births]] the last case of octuplets was in 2000. Suggest the blurb, please. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::A set of human [[Multiple birth|octuplets]] are [[2009 octuplets|born alive]] for the [[Chukwu octuplets|second time]] in [[United States|United States]]. If anyone can suggest better wording then please do so. [[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 18:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::That suggests the octuplets are [[Born again (Christianity)|born again]].-[[User talk:gadfium|<span style="font-family:cursive; color:#808080;">gadfium</span>]] 19:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Oppose. This isn't a record even in the United States. There have been larger multiple births, and other cases of octuplets. Medical records don't appear to be complete so we cannot say in some cases how many survived birth.-[[User talk:gadfium|<span style="font-family:cursive; color:#808080;">gadfium</span>]] 20:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::They come along and get internationally reported once in a blue moon by my reckoning. Keep it simple if it's controversial or indefinite. Just say they are born. Interested parties can click to read more. "A set of human [[Multiple birth|octuplets]] are '''[[2009 octuplets|born]]''' in the [[United States]]." --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 20:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Posting. I'll add the city as well. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Hm, is this grammacitally correct? A set... are born. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::No. 'Tisn't. Oh well. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::What makes this notable is that all 8 were lives births. If this is up, it should be mentioned. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::it sounds fine, i think itn just needed to mention they were born. they can click and find out the conditions in which the babies were born.[[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 22:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't have strong feelings either way on this story, but I would point out it appears one of the reasons why this is rare is apparently by choice since according to [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E5D6133FF932A05751C1A96E958260&pagewanted=print], [[selective reduction]] is routinely offered to those carrying such a large number of fetuses. In other words, it's not just that ending up with that many is very rare or that they will often die naturally but that people may choose to terminate one or more fetuses if they have that many because of the risks involved to the mother and other fetuses. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 09:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 26==
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*Iceland, quite certainly (we could have have this before when the early election was announced). Any good wording? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Geir Haarde 2006-Oct-11.JPG|right|100x100px|Prime Minister Geir Haarde of Iceland]]
:*How about this?  "In [[Iceland]], the [[coalition government]] under [[List of Prime Ministers of Iceland|Prime Minister]] [[Geir Haarde]] ''(pictured)'' collapses amid '''[[2009 Icelandic financial crisis protests|escalating protests]]''' against its handling of the country's '''[[2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis|financial crisis]]'''."  Has Geir Haarde turned in his resignation papers yet? --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 18:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: Maybe "The [[coalition government]] of [[Iceland]] under [[List of Prime Ministers of Iceland|Prime Minister]] [[Geir Haarde]] ''(pictured)'' collapses amid '''[[2009 Icelandic financial crisis protests|escalating protests]]''' against its handling of the country's '''[[2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis|financial crisis]]'''."? Any of those seems ok. According to the article, the full resignation will happen soon, maybe wait until then. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:: [http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090126/wl_nm/us_iceland_7 Geir Haarde handed in his resignation]. I am posting. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 09:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC) 

'''Nomination''' - [[30 Rock]] wins all three of its nominations, the most for any production, at the '''[[15th Screen Actors Guild Awards]]'''. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]][[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red"><sup>11</sup></font></b>]]''' 18:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Was it most of any production ever or just at these awards? Anyway, I think Golden Globes and Oscars are enough, regarding the awards. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::The "guild awards" are too minor to be included. The reason why the SAGs get so much publicity is because the guild awarding the awards is composed of actors themselves. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 05:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Who vote and give out the Oscars, Howard? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.129.119|74.13.129.119]] ([[User talk:74.13.129.119|talk]]) 07:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: All of the guilds combined. What I meant (and was supposed to be easily understood if not for nitpicking) was "guilds on their own." We might as well add the [[Directors Guild of America Award|Directors Guild]], the [[Writers Guild of America Awards]] and so forth. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: But if "The reason why the SAGs get so much publicity is because the guild awarding the awards is composed of actors themselves." is an issue, "The reason why the Oscars get so much publicity is because the combined guilds awarding the awards are composed of guilds' members themselves." is also an issue. I'm puzzled. --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.129.119|74.13.129.119]] ([[User talk:74.13.129.119|talk]]) 14:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: I guess my point was that the SAGs are awarded by a single guild? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 05:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 25==
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===ITN candidates for January 25===
Just a general comment: Since most people here know a lot about [[T:ITN|In the news]] and its subpages, I was wondering if you guys could take a look at [[Wikipedia:FCDW/ITN]], ITN's dispatch workpage for the [[WP:SIGNPOST|Wikipedia Signpost]]. Please [[WP:BB|be bold]] and give it some cleanup/copyediting, add another section/expand, or leave a comment. Thanks, '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

*An '''[[Zigana avalanche|avalanche]]''' at a ski resort in north-east [[Turkey]], kills 10 hikers. ([http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/25/turkey.avalanche/index.html?iref=topnews CNN]) '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 22:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
**There is no article yet. Also avalanches seem to be no longer notable on ITN. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 22:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Strong oppose. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 22:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::This avalanche killed 10 people. Perhaps we could merge this hook with the other avalanche? '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 22:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it would be wise to leave the avalanches be, especially if they're happening this frequently across Europe. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 02:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::...and certainly one line won't get it anywhere. It lacks any context whatsoever. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 02:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion: I wonder if this is considered important? The article isn't updated though.
*'''[[Mamadou Dia]]''', the first [[Prime Minister of Senegal|Prime Minister]] of [[Senegal]] dies. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:: He was not holding the office at the time of his death so the question is about his historical role (we had Suharto on ITN when he died). But the article is far too short to say. So I'd say not for now. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, we had the first PM of the Maldives on ITN who was a major reformer. If this goes up, the whole article, not just a paragraph on Dia's death, needs to be expanded, at least a little. And also, in the wording you may want to say more about what Dia did. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: That's what I am saying. In fact, I think it is reasonable to use this as an unofficial guideline, if someone's death is to be featured, the article needs to be in a good shape (B class or more?) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 19:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: I will leave that up to anyone with more time and interest in the topic. I just thought I'd point it out to said people. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 19:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

*'''Nomination''': [[Army of Sri Lanka|Sri Lankan army]] '''[[Battle of Mullaitivu (2009)|captures]]''' [[Mullaitivu]], the last stronghold of [[Tamil Tigers]] in an [[Sri Lankan Civil War|ongoing civil war]].
::This is a turning point in Sri Lanka's history. 25 year old civil war is nearing a bloody end which has repercussions in India too. Never has Sri Lanka gained so much in past. It is almost a united country after decades. The article is a start class. Go! --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 21:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Support. The article is being worked on at the moment so maybe let's wait a couple of hours before posting. And don't use the acronym in the blurb. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Support. For historic reasons. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I have nearly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Mullaitivu_(2009)&diff=266394474&oldid=266332851 doubled] the article. Lets post now. Only the words are LTTE - not the link. The link is for [[Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam]]. It is big name for ITN so short form should be fine. Feel free to alter the blurb. Also, what about the internet nom below? --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 21:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'd rather use Tamil Tigers than LTTE as the name in the blurb - I think more ppl would recognise that name. [[User:Narayanese|Narayanese]] ([[User talk:Narayanese|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Done. Feel free to alter. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 22:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 22:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 24==
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===ITN candidates for January 24===
[[File:BentoXVI-30-10052007.jpg|right|100px|Benedict XVI]]
*'''Nom''': [[Pope]] [[Pope Benedict XVI|Benedict XVI]] ''(pictured)'' rescinds the [[excommunication]]s of '''[[Ecône consecrations|four bishops]]''' [[Consecration|consecrated]] in [[1988]] by [[France|French]] [[Archbishop]] [[Marcel Lefebvre]]. --[[User:Hapsala|Hapsala]] ([[User talk:Hapsala|talk]]) 14:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
**Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 15:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::I am not against the news to be posted on ITN, but the article really should have more information added to it before it should go up on ITN. There is only 1 sentence at the bottom of the article with 1 ref. The purpose of ITN is to invite everyone in updating old articles elaborately. If it is a new articles it should carry at least enough text to give the reader an idea of what the event is about. I think we should wait for the article to expand a little more. Sadly, I do not understand much of the subject area so cannot do it. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::There will be updates, as the decision is very, very important. --[[User:Hapsala|Hapsala]] ([[User talk:Hapsala|talk]]) 15:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC) 
::::I've made some additional updates to the article. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 15:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Is there any way to make the blur make more sense to a layman? I couldn't understand what it meant until I looked up every linked word, and still I don't fully understand it. [[User:Matty|Matty]] ([[User talk:Matty|talk]]) 01:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I suppose it could be changed to: [[Pope]] [[Pope Benedict XVI|Benedict XVI]] ''(pictured)'' '''[[Ecône consecrations|invites]]''' four exiled [[bishop]]s back into [[Roman Catholic Church|his Church]]. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 01:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I find your suggestion rather more incomprehensible than the original. I am a layperson, too, and I could understand the original far better. Besides, [[excommunication]] is something very different from [[exile]]. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 03:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

*There is one nomination below from yesterday. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::I wonder why the nomination of 1 billion unique users on internet is being ignored? It is a historical milestone in growth of internet. Doesn't anyone think so? I think this is very encyclopedic. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 12:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[[File:January 2009 Bay of Biscay storm tracker.png|right|100px]]
* Nominate "A European windstorm strikes Spain and France, killing 12 people". We post all atlantic hurricanes so i think this deserves to go up on ITN. this news is being covered internationally and effects multiple countries.[[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 21:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
: We need an article first... --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Article is located at [[January 2009 Mediterranean storm]]. I therefor, '''support''' this proposal, but not really the headline used above. Perhaps "A '''[[January 2009 Mediterranean storm|storm]]''' (''path pictured'') across [[France]] and [[Spain]] kills 15 people with [[Beaufort scale#The modern scale|hurricane-force]] winds" '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 00:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::ya jolly's headline sounds better  [[User:Ashishg55|Ashishg55]] ([[User talk:Ashishg55|talk]]) 01:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I've changed my headline a bit, as there were more deaths than I originaly put and it's not really a European windstorm. I still think it's better than the original one. Hopefully it will be on the Main Page soon. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 02:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
*A '''[[January 2009 Mediterranean storm|storm]]''' (''path pictured'') across [[France]] and [[Spain]] kills 15 people with [[Beaufort scale#The modern scale|hurricane-force]] winds. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 02:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
**Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 12:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Buachaille Etive Mor.jpg|right|200px]]
* Three people are '''[[Buachaille Etive Mòr avalanche of 2009|killed]]''' and one is seriously injured following an [[avalanche]] in the [[Scottish Highlands]].
** This incident is also of international significance as people from at least three countries were on the mountain at the time and the dead are from two separate countries. I've created and updated it appropriately to include some detail of the incident and two images too. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 01:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
***Also the mountain is popular with tourists, climbers and skiers and is often pictured on postcards, according to the sources. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 02:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
****I've inserted an image of the mountain as well in case people are bored with the sudden onslaught of Popes and Presidents featuring as the ITN image... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 02:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
*****Posted. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 12:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
****** I am a bit sceptic about this one, especially in comparisson with the storm. Does having people from 3 different countries really make this international? This shouldn't be on ITN, in my opinion. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
******* OK. Although it has been for some time now. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
******** Removed. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 21:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 23==
{{Portal:Current events/2009 January 23}}
===ITN candidates for January 23===
* We don't have an article about the Japanese satellite, do we? Since it is the world's first greenhouse-gas monitoring satellite (according to the [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i8SEG81tZR548fDRwrx_hTHF4z-wD95SKVGG0 AP]), it will make a nice new addition to ITN if someone can write an article about it. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 08:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
** Okay, I've updated [[Greenhouse Gases Observing Satellite]]. Suggest: [[Japan]] launches the world's first [[greenhouse-gas]]-monitoring [[satellite]] '''[[Greenhouse Gases Observing Satellite|Ibuki]]''' from the [[Tanegashima Space Center]]. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 19:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
*Does anyone else think the [[Laurent Nkunda]] arrest is notable? I think so, but the article needs ~4+ sentences more about his arrest. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 14:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
** I've expanded it for later. [http://www.zimdaily.com/news/nkunda27.6814.html This headline] is pretty convincing, drawing comparisons to WWII... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 17:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
*** Rebel leader [[Laurent Nkunda]] is '''[[Laurent Nkunda#Capture and arrest|arrested]]''' by the [[Rwanda]]n [[Rwandan Defence Forces|military]] on its country's border with the [[Democratic Republic of Congo]]. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Posting. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

*Is there any article about the Belgian childcare attack? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 14:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:At [[Dendermonde nursery attack]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 14:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::Wording: Three people are stabbed to death and ten more are injured after an '''[[Dendermonde nursery attack|attack]]''' at a [[day care|crèche]] in [[Dendermonde]], [[Belgium]]. 
::Going to post, article looks good now. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 15:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

*How about Norway? Would it feature on ITN? I imagine two consecutive shootings might be a bit much but I'll do Norway as well if it's needed. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 15:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:Norway actually appears to be a domestic dispute gone bad...the girlfriend, a student-teacher, was shot in the school parking lot. Not really notable, IMO. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 15:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::OK. Belgium jumps at me more anyway. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 16:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Just make sure that there are the same numbers in the ITN as in the article (at the moment, ITN says 4 dead and article 3). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: The foreign language sources appear to be contradicting each other. A person fluent in all of Flemish, French and German might be useful. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 16:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Wording changed to: "At least three..." '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 16:53, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: A question about international significance has been raised on the talkpage about this one. I suggest removing it, we have two more appropriate ITN items today, Nkuda and the satellite that I am going to post now. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Actually it seems to be rather balanced if not in favour of inclusion in my view. It's managed to reach Australia... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 20:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Hm, no opinion on this one, really. Any admin can put it back on. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

*'''Nomination''': The number of unique [[User (computing)|users]] [[internet access|accessing]] '''[[Internet#Growth|internet]]''' in a single month reach 1&nbsp;billion.
::This is the first time in internet history that 1 billion unique users have used it in a single month. Source of the news, comScore, is reliable. Feel free to alter the blurb. Article has been updated. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd '''support''' but perhaps a minor change with the link to highlight the change rather than the internet? The number of unique [[internet]] users in a single month '''[[Internet#Growth|reaches 1&nbsp;billion]]''' for December 2008. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Support, but maybe add some reference in the blurb...? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I could get a link for just one more article. I think we can post now. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 20:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::One more added to the blurb. You can alter it if needed. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 20:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::How did I miss this? I'm going to post it in on the end. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 22==
{{Portal:Current events/2009 January 22}}
===ITN candidates for January 22===
* Iceland protests maybe? There's a decent percentage of the population protesting. Though use of tear gas should not go to ITN. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 15:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah they are significant protests, 1-2% of the total population (that would be like 3-6 million people in the USA). Use of tear gas for the first time is highlighted by all news sources as a significant escalation, but I am ok with rewording. I think this is straight up ITN item, as the protests have escalated progressively, have gone on for three days, and are not expected to end anytime soon.--[[User:Cerejota|Cerejota]] ([[User talk:Cerejota|talk]]) 15:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll post, but I find the wording in P:CE rather poor. Can someone suggest better wording? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Early election has been called today [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123272379422210297.html]. When the articles are updated, this should go up. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 21==
{{Portal:Current events/2009 January 21}}
===ITN candidates for January 21===
[[File:Mary McAleese.jpg|right|100px]]
* The [[President of Ireland]] [[Mary McAleese]] ''(pictured)'' signs [[Anglo Irish Bank Corporation Bill 2009|emergency legislation]] confirming the '''[[Anglo Irish Bank hidden loans controversy|nationalisation]]''' of [[Anglo Irish Bank]]. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:'''Comment''': This has been ongoing for some time and has resulted from some dodgy loans and at least four resignations, all of which are covered in the article. The President signing what has been described as "emergency" legislation just this afternoon makes it all the more symbolic in my opinion, showing the seriousness of the situation and the damage that has been done to the country's banking system in the past few weeks. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 19:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:: The article is in good condition and if I see correctly, this is one of the biggest banks in the country? Support, but maybe without the photo, the president isn't really the focus here. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::: It is. OK, just thought I'd put it there in case anyone wanted to take the focus off Obama a bit. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Posting. We need another item. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::'''Comment''': this is very internal Irish centric news. Are you sure that it is notable enough for the main page instead of the GM takeover and Guantanamo halt?--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 20:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Though its a more marginal news item, it has a good update to it. In addition, no article (or update in an article) apparently exists for the GM/Toyota item, and the Guantanamo item will be posted when the prison is actually closed. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How big is this item? Are Irish banks as big as, say, British banks? &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::According to Candlewicke (above), Anglo Irish Bank is one of the largest in the country. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 14:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Anglo-Irish is actually quite small. It only employs 1500 people according to its article, whilst UK banks are much bigger. RBS and Barclays both employ 150,000 and a very large proportion of HSBC's 300,000 workforce are likely to employed in the UK --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 16:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
'''Comment''': Surely the confirmed nationalisation of any bank is more relevant than the proposed closure of a facility? If it closes I would not object but a proposal to shut it down? There's always the slightest outside possibility that it may never shut, or at least not just yet. That and having two consecutive Obama ITNs? Anglo-Irish may be "quite small" to some people but how does one compare two countries whose population difference runs into many millions? The bank has been regularly mentioned by the media in the same breath as the country's other two large banks - [[Allied Irish Bank]] and [[Bank of Ireland]]. Whether it is important is not so much the matter at hand - it is the fact that a government felt it was such to take action. The bank's importance is a topic for debate but the point is that the action has been taken by a country's government to nationalise a bank at an extremely quick pace - it was due to simply be recapitalised one week ago. Something prompted drastic action in that period. Whether it was the correct decision is not for us to decide; we can debate the matter but the fact is it has happened. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:This demonstrates my point of the (ex-)Commonwealth bias. If this were American this won't make it. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 02:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well actually several American banks (and insurance companies) did make it to ITN, however, everything is reletive. Yes, by US standards Anglo-Irish is small, but given that Ireland has a population of less than 5m which makes it less than 1/60th the size of the US it naturally follows that their banks will be smaller. Also whats your anti-commonwealth/UK/Ireland/Europe agenda. Where is this bias you talk of? You want to talk about bias how much US presidential coverage was on ITN? --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 16:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::US presidential coverage was everywhere, even our local media got on the Obama bandwagon, hence its prominence at ITN was, lemme say, proportional to its coverage everywhere.\
:::To further illustrate the international importance of this item, see this illustration at the right.
[[File:Total music market 2003.png|100px|thumb|Global music market in 2003.]]
:::That's the sizes of the music markets around the world, now of course this is ''not'' the same in the financial industry but it gives you an idea on the relative importance of the different nations (although Russia seems a lot smaller than it should be. Maybe because of rampant piracy, but that is for another day).
:::And where's the Republic of Ireland? The cute pink rectangle between U.S., UK and France. If you can't see it you'd have to click the thumb. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 16:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I think this is high time people realize that ITN is not a place to discuss/showcase that one news from a country/region is more superior or worthy than other. This type of discussion along with nominations should stop. International importance, encyclopedic value, historical uniqueness(for any subject - sports/science/socio-politics/calamities, etc), impact on population(local or global) should be few points to be met without giving undue focus on certain topics. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 17:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::
:::::It's like this: If [[Miley Cyrus]] died on a plane crash at the border of [[Montana]] and [[Idaho]], it'll probably won't make it. Now if a similar teen star from France had a plane crash at the border of Germany and Switzerland, it'll probably make it.
:::::PS, there are further discussions at [[Template:In the news]] about the topic of internationalness. This and the knife-spree items are under discussion although probably they won't be removed. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 18:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

*Is there anything for Toyota overtaking GM as the world largest vehicle producer. Personally I thought that they had done this several years ago but the Reuters story says otherwise. Its pretty noteworthy I'd say --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 10:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 
*Hours after taking office, [[Barack Obama|President Obama]] issues an order halting the trials of detainees at the '''[[Guantanamo Bay detention camp]]'''. [http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50K0S620090121 (Reuters)] <span style="font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]] [[User talk:Steven Walling|(talk)]]</span> 21:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
: Enough Obama for now, I'd say. Support when Guantanamo actually closes. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::Here, here. Agreed. The bank above was not included when there were discussions over its nationalisation, now it has officially taken place so its importance has increased. Guantanamo will get plenty of airing later if it does shut. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 20==
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===ITN candidates for January 20===
[[File:Barack Obama - ITN.jpg|100px|right|thumb|Barack Obama<p>Please be reminded that [[:Template:POTD protected/2009-01-20|today's POTD]] is a portrait of Obama. Please consider holding off the use of another Obama photo on MainPage till after midnight UTC. Thanks. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)]]

*[[Bank]] shares in the [[United Kingdom]] collapse as [[RBS]] posts the biggest loss in British history. See '''[[Blue Monday 2009 Crash]]'''. [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/4292334/Royal-Bank-of-Scotland-driven-to-the-brink-of-nationalisation.html] <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jandrews23jandrews23|Jandrews23jandrews23]] ([[User talk:Jandrews23jandrews23|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jandrews23jandrews23|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
::Please use [[P:CE]] when you post a news item along with the refline. Here we discuss the nomination. One star is enough to start a new topic. I have removed the excesses. Hope you don't mind. The article is poorly sourced and needs clean-up before it can up on ITN. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree. It needs more refs, and a little more meat in general. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 15:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

(From Jan 17): 
*[[Barack Obama]] is '''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration|inaugurated]]''' as the [[List of Presidents of the United States|forty-fourth]] [[President of the United States]]. -- [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 19:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::Please do not post until the article is written in the correct tense, and updated with the correct citations. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
*Alternate wording: '''[[Barack Obama]]''' and '''[[Joe Biden]]''' are [[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration|sworn-in]] as the [[List of Presidents of the United States|forty-fourth]] [[President of the United States|President]] and [[List of Vice Presidents of the United States|forty-seventh]] [[Vice President of the United States|Vice President]] of the [[United States]], respectively.  [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 07:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::'''Comment''' On the main page we have Obama as featured picture, Washington as featured article and Inaugaration day in OTD. Surely we have to be careful of US political overkill --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 09:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Luckily, no Obama items in DYK :-) Well, since this is the news of the day, I say we let it be. Regarding the wording, I prefer mentioning just Obama since the alternative with Biden is rather long. But I am fine with the other one as well. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:25, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: The [[Barack Obama "HOPE" poster]] is in the update queue for DYK... [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 13:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: ... Obama Wikipedia ... (at least, tomorrow only the ITN post will remain on the Main page). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 19==
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===ITN candidates for January 19===
*Anyone feel like updating the El Salvador elections article? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think the news is still evolving. Also, I am not sure if the legislative elections have any impact on the leadership of the country. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7838959.stm BBC] says that presidential elections are 15 months in future. Anyone knows the official government website showing results of El Salvador? I could not find one. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Salvadoran legislative election, 2009]] is updated with the results but it seems rather stubby as an article. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 06:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

*Also, when the results for the [[Australian Open]] are known, this should be posted as well ([[WP:ITNSPORTS]]). '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 18==
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===ITN candidates for January 18===
Couple of things for today:
* [http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/world-news/africa/one-dead-six-missing-after-french-military-helicopter-crash-1606076.html Helicopter crash into sea off Gabon]
*[http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/world-news/asia/afghanistan-avalanches-kill-10-1606066.html 10 dead in Afghanistan avalanches]
If the plane where nobody dies gets one then logic decrees the helicopter where at least one dies does too. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 10:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:Helicopters crash all the time in war zones. [[Water landing#Commercial aircraft|Commercial airlines landing on a water body]] are a little bit rarer. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ooops, wait. I thought the chopper crashed in Afghanistan. However, this doesn't diminish the fact the commercial aircraft landing on a water body is somewhat rare. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 11:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Would you have the same opinion on ''avalanches'' in warzones? Seems a bit of an unusual extremity for the military to go to... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 11:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually when was the last time an avalanche featured on ITN? --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 11:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Aren't avalanches common this time of the year (at least in the Northern Hemisphere)? Nevertheless, we list tropical cyclones even if the season is ongoing so... &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 12:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I should think an avalanche would be more of a novelty... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 13:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Aren't they much more common? It inly becomes ITN material when a whole town is buried. I dunno about this case though; I'd rather pick the chopper crash. Or if the avalanche happened on a tropical place, then that's something. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 16:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I thought you disagreed with the chopper crash? --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 16:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::If it was between the chopper crash vs. the avalanche I'd pick the chopper crash. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 05:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
: [[2009 Gabonese helicopter crash]] & [[2009 Afghan avalanches]] are rather stubby right now and not ready to be showcased on MainPage.  If there is international attention and a high-profile rescue mission (as with [[Major submarine incidents since 2000|a lost submarine]], perhaps), and the article(s) is(are) well expanded and updated to document these events, you might have a case for ITN. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 18:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::I have expanded [[2009 Gabonese helicopter crash]] more now. Wording:
* During a [[Military exercise|training exercise]] off the coast of [[Gabon]], a [[France|French]] [[helicopter]] '''[[2009 Gabonese helicopter crash|crashes]]''', killing at least seven [[Military of France|French soldiers]].
**'''ALT:''' Seven [[France|French]] [[Military of France|soldiers]] are '''[[2009 Gabonese helicopter crash|killed]]''' and one is reported missing following a [[Aviation accidents and incidents|helicopter crash]] off the [[Gabon]]ese coast.
***I believe this to be more specific for the purpose of condensing the most significant info for ITN. The one missing seems more important than what they were doing and "coast of Gabon" is shortened. If anyone wants the detail of the military exercise they can click the link - they are soldiers after all so military exercise would be expected. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 22:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I hope this is suitable. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I like the alt better. Posting. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 02:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::YAY! Thank you! :) --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 02:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

* [[Hamas]] announces ceasefire to allow [[Israel]] to withdraw and to open borders, after...
::Or something like it, preceeding the sentence, "Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert (pictured) declares a unilateral ceasefire in the conflict in Gaza." -[[User:SusanLesch|SusanLesch]] ([[User talk:SusanLesch|talk]]) 19:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 17==
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===ITN candidates for January 17===

*'''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration]]''' celebrations began on January 17 and continue until January 20 when [[Barack Obama]] and [[Joe Biden]] will assume office.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 14:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC) <small>(Rescued from [[Portal:Current events/2009 January 17]]. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:49, 17 January 2009 (UTC))</small>

: Swearing in, taking office, [[Presidential transition of Barack Obama]]? Yes, and this should be on ITN ''after'' things happen as planned on [[Inauguration Day]].  Concerts and parades?  No, thanks. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 15:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:: What about the train ride and such.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 16:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Relative to getting a new POTUS, the rest seems rather unimportant. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Obama is expected to take the oath of office around noon on Tuesday, I think that would be a good time to put it up. Something like:
:::*[[Barack Obama]] is '''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration|inaugurated]]''' as the [[List of Presidents of the United States|forty-fourth]] [[President of the United States]]. -- [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 19:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Sure. Please be reminded to make sure that, before this item gets on MainPage, the article no longer uses the future tense for things that have already happened, and that everything is properly referenced, ''i.e.'' we'll have to wait till CNN, BBC, VOA, etc. to report the inauguration on their websites, and we have to cite them in the article as properly formatted footnotes. Thanks. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 16==
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===ITN candidates for January 16===
*'''Nomination''': [[Computer worm]] '''[[Conficker]]''' infects nearly 9 million [[Microsoft Windows]] based [[personal computer]]s.
::The worm has become one of the worst outbreak on internet in recent times and is still spreading fast. The figures from outbreak during the first two week of Jan was alarming. Feel free to alter the blurb. I have expanded the article to 2x. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 14:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Only nine million PCs? Seems a tad small... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 16:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::A major outbreak - affecting users across continents - major corporations across globe acting for protecting their networks and Microsoft taking swift action. Not a localized event. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 17:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I get you... I was just remarking that nine million seems quite small... you would think there would be more... like a few hundred million at least... --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 18:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I have added figure now in blurb which can remove confusion. Feel free to alter. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 19:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Posted. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==== [[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict]]==== 
Apparently the fighting in Gaza has finished. Who won ? Surely we can't let this event slip off the in the news section ? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<span style="color:#000000;">Sean.hoyland</span>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 03:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why? It's been there for a month. The Cholera Epidemic in Zimbabwe has more victims and it didn't get as much coverage. Nor did the fighting in Sri Lanka. --[[User:Cdogsimmons|Cdogsimmons]] ([[User talk:Cdogsimmons|talk]]) 05:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::That's true...I suppose the potential global implications of what's happening in Gaza could be one argument....me, slinking away quietly.  <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<span style="color:#000000;">Sean.hoyland</span>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 09:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

With so many people dying everyday, 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict should stay at the homepage. It is important news. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:81.208.91.226|81.208.91.226]] ([[User talk:81.208.91.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/81.208.91.226|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:It stayed for more time on ITN than it actually deserved. It is placed [[Portal:Current events/Sidebar|here]] and is enough for now. Lets move on. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 08:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

: This item has become too old and stale on ITN.  We can bring it back when there are significant changes to the status quo (and such changes are documented, with refs, in appropriately updated wikipages).  Until then, we'll have other newer news items on ITN. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 17:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

::How about something [http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0116/anglo.html original] and [http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0116/anglo2.html exciting] for a change such as the [http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0115/anglo.html nationalisation] of ''another'' bank? :P I've been humbly writing about it [[Anglo Irish Bank hidden loans controversy|here]] for a number of months and have just completed the latest updates from last night and today. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 21:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You mean that "The Irish government '''[[Anglo Irish Bank hidden loans controversy|nationalises]]''' [[Anglo Irish Bank]]."? [[User:Narayanese|Narayanese]] ([[User talk:Narayanese|talk]]) 19:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Exactly (well with a few more links). I wasn't expecting to be taken seriously but had I been that is just what I would have suggested.
'''ALT:''' "The [[Government of Ireland|Irish government]] '''[[Anglo Irish Bank hidden loans controversy|nationalises]]''' its country's third largest financial insitution, [[Anglo Irish Bank]]." --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 00:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure the bank is really large enough to be notable. We've put up similar items twice, I recall. Once, for Iceland, all 3 main banks were nationalised, and the other time we put it up was when there were 4-5 banks at once, each larger than the Anglo Irish Bank. I'm afraid I'm going to have to '''oppose'''. I would suggest DYK, but it's already been there. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 19:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 15==
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===ITN candidates for January 15===
*'''Nomination''': [[People's Republic of China|China]] '''[[Economy_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China#2000-present|becomes]]''' [[List of countries by GDP (nominal)|third largest economy]] based on revised 2007 [[gross domestic product|GDP]] figures, surpassing [[Economy of Germany|Germany]]. 
::Rarely we see changes in ranks for this type of list in top 5 or 10. Ranks change every year but those are mostly beyond top 5 or 10 countries. Main article(''by me'') along with the list article(''not by me'') is updated. Feel free to alter the blurb. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::Support. An important milestone in world history. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 16:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::''Support'' Interesting and important story during a time of global economic crisis.--[[User:Cdogsimmons|Cdogsimmons]] ([[User talk:Cdogsimmons|talk]]) 19:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Posted, thanks --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 22:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::It hasn't been updated on the world rankings list. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 23:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::{{tl|sofixit}} '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 01:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::How? Those are figures from the IMF, the World Bank and the CIA fact book, i.e. two or three highly trusted sources. I doubt anyone here has enough clout to get the IMF, the World Bank of the CIA to issue revised figures for us to use [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 18:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

WHY ? Why was this news [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AIn_the_news&diff=264424224&oldid=264413859 removed] without a single word of discussion? I have really started hating admins these days. A bunch of them seem not ready to talk a word and delete whatever they feel like doing, be it FAR or ITN. Really horrible!!!! --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 08:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

:'''Comment''' The basis for China leapfrogging Germany is data released from within China. Surely we need a more reputable source to verify this (such as world bank or IMF) before we take this as true --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 13:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:There is absolutely no need for discussion if the statement we're making on ITN is not supported by the article. The main page defers to articles, always, and if you can't reach a consensus in the article then you shouldn't have anything on the main page. Frankly, not being an admin myself I feel they generally do a decent job and I'm much more 'hating' those who propose headlines without making sure the articles are ready first (or at least mentioning if they're not) [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 18:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::The list article (for which the link is now removed in the blurb) was updated with China being third in rank. But it was quickly reverted and subsequently got buried down under newer edits. Check the history to see it. I did not update the list article further because it purely relies on three sources which would not be updating their own figures soon. So no point of making an exception for China. I agree to the current status of the ITN. The news is reliable because WB, IMF or CIA HB would never differ so drastically from China or any other top countries' self published figures. Now, my remark was not meant for admins here doing an exceptional job of keeping ITN rolling, but was meant for "the admins" who take "things in their own control" without even a small intimation - or - FYI kind of message why they did so. Edit summaries are not the right place to discuss individual opinions. I have seen this happen frequently with certain admins and so vented out. A right admin seeks community consensus rather enforcing his/her own free will. A proof of that is the admin who removed the news has not even bothered to explain his/her act. Clear lack of basic WP guideline. I would leave this discussion now as it is because this not an AN. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 19:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:::There is also a major problem with the hook. It makes it seem as though it over took Germany yesterday. It should be something like "The IMF published data signaling that China's economy overtook Germany in 2008". Please remove this, it should be posted when the CIA, IMF or WB publish the data. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 20:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Strong oppose''', please remove this immediately. Wikipedia's list of countries by GDP is made up of three reliable sources. ''None'' of them indicate that China is greater than Germany. I would support this if it was correct, but I'm afraid the source isn't reliable enough. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 16:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Strong support''' Dozens of reliable mainstream sources have reported the new revised figures. It has also been covered by the World Bank. I, do however, agree that the list article should only be updated when IMF or World Bank issue new datasets.[[http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,date:2009-01-14~menuPK:34461~pagePK:34392~piPK:64256810~theSitePK:4607,00.html#Story0]] [[Special:Contributions/130.113.81.33|130.113.81.33]] ([[User talk:130.113.81.33|talk]]) 23:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::But just because China have released these figures doesn't mean they are necessarily true. A reputable and neutral international organisation should first verify them and only then should the item be placed on ITN. China is essentially a semi-communist country and as such we should take very carefully any data they release. Wikipedia is not a news service and its job is not to 'report' news. Its job is to provide verifiable neutral information and as far as I'm concerned China releasing information and every news organisation reporting it doesn't make it verifiable. --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 15:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

* '''Nomination''': '''[[US Airways Flight 1549]]'''
[[File:US Airways Flight 1549 (N106US) after crashing into the Hudson River (crop 1).jpg|100x100px|right|US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River.]]
'''[[US Airways Flight 1549]]''', flying from [[LaGuardia Airport]], [[New York City]] to [[Charlotte/Douglas International Airport]], [[Charlotte, North Carolina]], carrying 146 passengers and 5 crew members, has crash landed in the [[Hudson River]]. [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 21:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:*Strong support. For obvious reasons, any commercial plane crash in New York City should be on here.  Its the lead on BBC.com, reuters.com, ABC (Australia), CNN.  Clearly there is international interest.  [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 21:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:Usually i would support a plane crash but this one hit a bunch of birds and everyone came out unharmed. Except US Airways losing a 100 million $ plane nothing much happened. So i do not support this plane crash. [[Special:Contributions/99.237.101.160|99.237.101.160]] ([[User talk:99.237.101.160|talk]]) 21:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
** Strong support - lots of images of this, as well.  [[User talk:Garden|<font color=#000000>'''Garden'''</font>]]. 22:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:'''Strong support''' As far as I'm aware, what happened here (and correct me if I'm wrong) is almost unprecedented in commercial aviation - a fully loaded jetliner making a successful landing on water. Personally I think that would be pretty noteworthy on it's own, even if you disregard the fact that it's a crash landing of a jetliner in the middle of one of the most densely populated areas on the planet. [[Special:Contributions/87.115.87.175|87.115.87.175]] ([[User talk:87.115.87.175|talk]]) 23:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::Crashed into water in a single digit temperature. Pretty unusual there. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]][[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red"><sup>11</sup></font></b>]]''' 22:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:*Oppose. Plane crashes aren't as uncommon as you think. I don't think the fact that happened in New York in the river makes it any extra notable. Plane crashes are over-reported news, because planes are supposed to be safe and everybody gets scared when they crash. Wikipedia shouldn't be like this. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 23:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::'''Support''' I don't really see why not. I recall other large plane crashes that have occurred, and the article looks nice. The wording needs some modifications though, it's not really that great. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 23:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I was thinking the same thing, since more information is now available. How about "An [[Airbus A330]], '''[[US Airways Flight 1549]]''', flying from [[LaGuardia Airport]], [[New York City]] to [[Charlotte/Douglas International Airport]], makes an [[emergency landing]] in the [[Hudson River]], following a [[bird strike]] with geese."
::::Do we really need the location? I was thinking of saying NYC to Charlotte, but it technically doesn't matter. I'm going to post this, there appears to be consensus. If someone wants to upload (and crop) the image and upload here, feel free. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 01:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:*'''Remove'''. This is not an item worthy of the ITN space, imo. Clearly US-sentric bias has prevailed here. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::* I suppose you find the ITN hook of the sinking [[MV Teratai Prima]] to be too Indonesia-centric, too? 1549 has made news headlines around the world. It made a successful emergency landing with no major casualties in NYC - fairly newsworthy, I think. [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 20:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


*'''Nomination''': Methane and water vapour on Mars. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235|talk]]) 21:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:*Support{{spaced ndash}}you beat me to it. Reported in plenty of big news sources, plus we could need a science item up there. [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 22:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::Is there an article for this? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 23:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I guess that would have to be [[Atmosphere of Mars]], in particular the section on [[Atmosphere_of_Mars#Methane|Methane]]. It should probably be updated to reflect the latest announcement though. [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 23:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I'd support this. Very enlightening and a distraction from all the economic talk. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 11:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 14==
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===ITN candidates for January 14===
==January 13==
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===ITN candidates for January 13===
*As the [[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict]] is an ongoing event perhaps it is best to keep it in the news with updates? Whatever happened to the idea of creating an ongoing news section? The late 2000s economic crisis, climate change education, wars/conflicts/battles, etc, could all be located here. [[User:Nick carson|Nick carson]] ([[User talk:Nick carson|talk]]) 03:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:What wording do you suggest? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::There are lots of ongoing wars and other events, I think we should let Israel/Gaza slip at the next update.  --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 01:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

*<s>'''Nom''': The unveiling of [[David Černý]]'s sculpture '''[[Entropa]]''' in [[Brussels]] generates controversy throughout the [[European Union]] and attracts criticism from the [[Bulgaria]]n government. (Article created by [[User:Chinaman88|Chinaman88]], most expansion and writing done by [[User talk:Pointoften|Pointoften]].) [[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]</sup></small>/<small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]</sub></small> 17:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)</s>
:I'm unsure of the notability, perhaps a European ITN participant can fill me in. You may want to say "....Černý's '''satrical''' scuplture...". '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::I doubt this will qualify as an ITN item. Since it's brand new, why not nominate it for [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]] instead? [[User:Lampman|Lampman]] ([[User talk:Lampman|talk]]) 23:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't mind seeing this on ITN, but I wonder how "big" this is.  I don't think this is "frontpgae materials" in newspapers around the world, except maybe in Brussels and Bulgaria.  So I'd recommend DYK, too.  It's already nominated at [[T:TDYK#Entropa]], anyway. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 22:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I was also considering it for DYK, I just figured I should try here first since it's a current event.  If consensus here is not to use it for ITN, I can take it to DYK.  Thanks, [[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]</sup></small>/<small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]</sub></small> 00:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::*Withdrawn, nominated at DYK instead.  Probably too late for ITN now anyway. [[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]</sup></small>/<small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]</sub></small> 16:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 12==
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===ITN candidates for January 12===
* The portal space is still empty... Is there an article about ferry disaster in Indonesia? And Golden globes were handed out today, this is one of the biggest awards. However, due to many categories, it's hard to propose an adequate wording. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 08:23, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::[[Slumdog Millionaire]] is updated. It won 4 GG awards. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 08:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::: ''At '''[[66th Golden Globe Awards]]''', the movie [[Slumdog Millionaire]] wins four awards and [[Kate Winslet]] two.'' Wining two acting awards is probably significant as well. [[John Adams (TV miniseries)]] also won four, maybe we should put this one as well. Or, an alternative is just '''''[[66th Golden Globe Awards]]''' ceremony takes place in [[Beverly Hills, California]].'', with no winners featured. Though I am somehow inclined to have the Slumdog Millionaire in. Any other opinions? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 10:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How about &ndash; [[Slumdog Millionaire]], [[Kate Winslet]] and [[John Adams (TV miniseries)|John Adams]] win multiple '''[[66th Golden Globe Awards|Golden Globe Awards]]'''? --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 12:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How about: ''The '''[[66th Golden Globe Awards]]''' takes place in [[Beverly Hills]], [[California]], with [[Slumdog Millionaire]] winning four awards including best picture'' - Personally I'd prefer only one winner mentioned. If slumdog millionaire won the most for a single film then that should go up. Having too many winners makes it very long and clumsy: --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 15:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Ok, this is fine with me. Posting. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 16:23, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: How about Kate Winslet winning both Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress? That seems pretty remarkable. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 01:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't regard the Golden Globe Awards as being worthy of its inclusion here. It happens every year and it's just people getting awards. Not really news. '''[[User:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Jolly</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#2A5FFF;">Ω</span>]] [[User talk:Jolly Janner|<span style="color:#00824A;">Janner</span>]]''' 16:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:The Globes are not listed [[WP:Recurring items on ITN]] but I'd support its inclusion. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 01:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
<div style="float:right;margin-left:0.5em;">
[[File:DannyBoyle08TIFF.jpg|100x100px|Slumdog Millionaire director Danny Boyle]]
</div>
Proposing [[:File:DannyBoyle08TIFF.jpg]] so Mr. Atta-Mills can have a break: The '''[[66th Golden Globe Awards]]''' take place in [[Beverly Hills, California|Beverly Hills]], [[California]], with ''[[Slumdog Millionaire]]'' ''(director [[Danny Boyle]] pictured)'' winning four awards including [[Golden Globe Award for Best Motion Picture — Drama|Best Motion Picture—Drama]].

:[[Commons:File:DannyBoyle08TIFF.jpg]] says "cc-by-sa-2.0", but the source page at Flicker.com ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdcgraphics/3025796443/in/set-72157607247444523/ ) says "(C) All rights reserved".  We need someone with an OTRS account to verify the copyright status of this image before it can be used on MainPage. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 08:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::{{done}}. Release of the Danny Boyle photo is verified. As an alternate image, may I suggest [[File:Golden Globe Awards signs.jpg|20px]] as well? <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay. If someone wants to flip the image (so it faces the text) and upload it here, that'd be great. I think the Boyle photo is better than the alt. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::{{done}} I concurred with Spencer's flipping. --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 22:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Thank you, Howcheng, Spencer & Stephen. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

*'''Nom:''' [[2009 Fiji floods]]. I'm currently working on the article, and it should be ready soon. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, I think I'm done. Wording: '''[[2009 Fiji floods|Flooding]]''' in [[Fiji]] kills 8 people and displaces 6,000. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Looks fine, I think you can post it. Maybe the ferry accident as well, interested in starting an article? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 22:37, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay. The artivlr is at [[Teratai Prima]], and I'll look into it later...I'm going to log off soon, and won't be able to get back for a bit. Ask gppande to see if he would like to. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I added the ferry, as I'm in favour of shorter articles getting developed by views off the MP.  But if anyone strenuously disagrees, then just revert. --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 22:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 11==
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==January 10==
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==January 9==
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===ITN candidates for January 9===
This [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7819651.stm] looks like a good ITN item. I wonder if there is any good article on the topic. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nice. Recently India saw the greatest corporate scam in its history. [[Satyam Computer Services]] had inflated balance sheets of {{INRConvert|7000|c}}. Do you think, if I made a quality update to the article, it would make it to ITN? --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 14:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Looks big and it has some international consequences. In any case, it's good to have the article updated, ITN or not ;-) --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 14:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::[[Satyam_Computer_Services#Accounting_scandal_of_2009]] is updated along with [[Ramalinga Raju]]'s article (which was severely vandalized on Wednesday when scam was opened). Yes, the scam has international importance as Satyam is listed not just on Indian stock exchange but also on [[NYSE]] and American investors of Satyam ADR have already initiated the legal case &ndash; not to mention [[Price Waterhouse Coopers]]' legal hassles. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 15:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Is using genetic screening in this way a new thing? I have the impression that we have had the technology to do such screening for some time. Perhaps the only news here that people are screening for that gene for the first time, which would make this just-another-gene-screening-process. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 19:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::I think the significance comes from the fact that using screening they were able to avoid passing on one of the most prevelant hereditary diseases in the world (breast cancer). The profound implications is that it will allows couples, where one of them has a family history of breast cancer, to screen embryos and prevent passing it on. But without an updated article its a non-starter --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 20:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::: The article in focus would be [[BRCA1]], or maybe [[Predictive testing]]. However, I am not an expert on the topic therefore I leave the expansion to others. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
*I'm creating an article for the Costa Rican earthqake at [[2009 Costa Rica earthquake]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 20:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Looks ok to me. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::*'''Support'''. Article looks long enough, death toll updated to fifteen. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 22:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Posting. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 22:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 8==
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*The UNSC passing a resolution for a cease fire in Gaza should be added as long as the prerequisites are done. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]''' 03:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
: Have fun with the stubby [[United Nations Security Council Resolution 1860]] wikipage, Howard.  Happy editing. :-) --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 15:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 7==
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*[[Israel]]'s [[Israel Defense Forces|Defense Forces]] launch a [[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict#3 January 2009|ground attack]] on the [[Gaza Strip]].

:How original suggestion turned into "Israeli ground forces enter Gaza after a week of airstrikes '''against Hamas''' in the area." See our detailed objection in January 3 title below. Over 300 civillians including over 130 children are dead by now, only yesterday 75 civillians had been killed, while only 4 Hamas gunmen had been killed. IDF claimed Hamas is the only target and they took cautions against civillians, then they bombed a [[UN]] School, which is reported to IDF as a school by UN, which resulted 40 deaths including children. '''High civillian casualties should be stressed immediately.''' [[User:Kasaalan|Kasaalan]] ([[User talk:Kasaalan|talk]]) 12:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Suggest a better wording then. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 13:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:::'''Israeli ground forces enter Gaza after a week of airstrikes over city, statedly against Hamas, resulted with high civillian and children casualties.''' A better wording may be suggested since I am not native English speaker, yet high civillian casualties should be stressed. Near 2700 people are wounded, 670 are dead already, while over 300 of them are civillians and at least 130 them are 16 year old or smaller children. Source AP [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gcUECSml8TBNV82UJjUVkYddt2zgD95IAHT00] [[User:Kasaalan|Kasaalan]] ([[User talk:Kasaalan|talk]]) 01:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: It's war.  There will be inevitable collateral damages.  I'm not sure if it's such as good idea to bring up the children as this seems to be "sensationalizing" the news item. I've rewitten the line as:
::::* [[Israel]]i and [[Hamas]] forces '''[[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict|resume hostilities]]''' in [[Gaza]] after a brief respite to allow [[humanitarian aid]] to enter the area.
:::: Actually, I plagiarised (from [[Portal:Current events/2009 January 7]].) --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 01:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Actually we shouldn't do play-by-play on ITN.  Re-posting as
:::::*After a six-month [[ceasefire]], [[Israel]]i and [[Hamas]] forces '''[[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict|resume hostilities]]''' in [[Gaza]].
::::: and moving the blurb to the bottom. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 01:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hi, with respect (and I'm sure it's not your intention) this kind of sanitised, understated characterisation of what's happening is likely to bring shame on Wikipedia in many peoples eyes. 'Resume hostilities' hardly seems to be an appropriate description that mirrors the terms used by the majority of English language reliable sources around the world. I've seen what seemed to be more appropriate titles in this section given their due weight. This event is on everyone's TV screens after all and it still seems to be the headline on all channels given the ongoing developments. Just a thought. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:Sean.hoyland|<span style="color:#000000;">Sean.hoyland</span>]]''' - '''[[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]'''</small> 04:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Well, ''ITN doesn't report news'', just highlighting new or well updated articles related to news..... with a factually correct sentence that doesn't require too much updating.  I must say I am not 100% happy with the word "hostilities", though.  Perhaps "resume fighting"? Or "resume combat"?  I don't know.  Suggestions are welcome.  I'm putting in "resume fighting" for now.  I hope it's not too "chatty". --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 06:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I think ''After a six-month [[ceasefire]], [[Israel]]i and [[Hamas]] forces '''[[2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict|resume hostilities]]''' in [[Gaza]]'' is exactly the kind of undramatic and NPOV kind of wording that an encyclopedia should be using and commend the author/s. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks. I hope you're okay with the change from "hostilities" to "fighting".  It's more than "staring, angrily pointing fingers and screaming at each other," eh! --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 13:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 6==
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*[[Ukraine]] '''[[Russia–Ukraine gas disputes|blocked three key gas pipelines]]''' to [[Europe]] meaning that [[Russia]]n [[Public ownership|state-controlled]] supplier [[Gazprom]] cannot deliver gas to European nations, causing several European countries to experience a fall in supplies.
:Update to the current one.--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 23:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

*The '''[[111th United States Congress]]''' holds its first session. 
::I feel this is better than the Franken one (as that will almost certainly be taken through the courts) if you're looking for an American story.  Wording probably needs to be improved though.  [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 21:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope, not internationally significant --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 03:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Agree with Stephen, not internationally significant. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 15:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
**I prefer: "[[United States Senate]] leaders refuse to seat '''[[Roland Burris]]''' on the first day of the [[111th United States Congress]]." As for the international-ness of it or lack thereof, please see the ITN discussion page for a discussion on that criterion. -- [[User:Mwalcoff|Mwalcoff]] ([[User talk:Mwalcoff|talk]]) 01:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

*The last [[Macworld Conference & Expo]] is held in [[San Francisco]].
::Am no MAC user, maybe it's somewhat notable. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macworld_Conference_%26_Expo#2009] --''Avant-garde a clue''-'''[[User:HexaChord|<span style="color:#000000;">hexa</span>]][[User talk:HexaChord|<span style="color:#FF0000;">Chord</span>]][[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists/Buckethead task force|<sup style="color:#FFFF00;">2</sup>]]''' 06:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Not really important news, IMO. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 15:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
*Maybe we could have something on the Ukraine gas crisis now since several European countries report a drop in gas supplies. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::I would support this - is there an article (and a suggested line)? [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 17:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Not significant here.  [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 19:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Support if there is an updated article. BBC are stating that Serbia, Germany, Poland, Austria, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Turkey, Macedonia, Greece, Croatia and Czech Republic have all been affected. --[[User:Daviessimo|Daviessimo]] ([[User talk:Daviessimo|talk]]) 19:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: ''Several European countries report fail in supplies after [[Gazprom]] cuts off '''[[Russia–Ukraine gas disputes|gas deliveries to Ukraine]]''', caused by failure of negotiations over gas price.'' Something like this but the blurb can certainly be written better so I am not putting it on yet. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 21:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Had a crack, feel free to tweak. --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 23:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
*How come the Russia-Ukraine dispute is not in the ITN? [[User:Nergaal|Nergaal]] ([[User talk:Nergaal|talk]]) 19:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:It is.  Patience is a virtue. --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 23:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 5==
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*[[Democrat Party (United States)|Democrat]] [[Al Franken]] is certified the winner of the '''[[United States Senate election in Minnesota, 2008]]''', defeating [[Norm Coleman]] by 225 votes.
*:Sources: [http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/37093114.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aU1E::Dy_oacyKU]. This is a bit iffy: on one hand, it's only about a Senate seat in America, and we already have an election hook on ITN. On the other hand, this election is especially notable because it was so close, and there isn't anything about America in ITN at the moment. Your call; I'm new to ITN :/ '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 21:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:Oppose, no international significance --[[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 03:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 4==
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*A deadly [[2009 Papua earthquake|earthquake]] strikes [[Indonesia]], killing at least four.
:* Source: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7810106.stm] --[[User:Ouro|Ouro]] <small>([[User_talk:Ouro|blah blah]])</small> 10:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I'd wait for more info to see if [[2009 Indonesia earthquake]] has more impact.  If a tsunami reaches Japan, why not the Philippines and Taiwan? --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 16:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::The article is a bit stubby as well. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 17:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm currently working on the article. I suggest "An '''[[2009 Papua earthquake|earthquake]]''' strikes [[West Papua (Indonesian province)|West Papua]], [[Indonesia]], killing at least four people and wounding dozens." However, we could also wait for updated info. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 23:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::*'''Support'''. It's a bit better updated by now. ~[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001|<span style="color:blue;">H</span>]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|<span style="color:blue;">1</span>]]<sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 00:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::It's still too short. [[WP:ITNMP]] recommends 3 paragraphs for a stand-alone article, and this appears to have ~1 1/2. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 03:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 3==
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[[File:John Atta-Mills election poster.jpg|right|100x100px|John Atta Mills]]
*[[John Atta Mills]] ''(pictured)'' of the [[National Democratic Congress (Ghana)|National Democratic Congress]] '''[[Ghanaian presidential election, 2008|is elected]]''' [[List of Presidents of Ghana|President]] of [[Ghana]].
::Already put up. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 17:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

*Presumptive nom: [[2009 Dakar Rally]]. It's been put up before, and instead of taking place in Africa, its in South America. I'm still updating it, though. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 15:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:They moved [[Dakar]] to South America? Sorry I couldn't resist. Anyway support presuming the article gets up to scratch. Not sure if we should put it now or wait to the end though [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 17:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I suggest we put it on now since there are many categories and it would be impractical to list all the winners at the end. Of course, it would be nice to have some more content in the article. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think I'm done updating; any other opinions? '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 17:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Wording: In the first running outside of [[Europe]] and [[Africa]], the '''[[2009 Dakar Rally|Dakar Rally]]''' begins in [[Buenos Aires]], [[Argentina]].
::::I'm going to post this; timer's at 25 hrs and there aren't any other items with a support consensus. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


*Following a week of [[Israel]]i air attacks against [[Hamas]] in [[Gaza]], Israeli ground forces '''[[2008–2009_Israel–Gaza_conflict|enter Gaza]]'''.
:[[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 20:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Posting. There is some update in the article and I believe it will be improved even more soon. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 20:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Please remove the words "against Hamas".   Though the IDF claims that Hamas is its target, it is not possible for independent sources to confirm this (therefore I don't think these 2 words are verifiable or neutral.) --[[User:InfantGorilla|InfantGorilla]] ([[User talk:InfantGorilla|talk]]) 12:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
It's absolutely verifiable - it's in all the major media that Israelis have said that Hamas is the target. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 15:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::I agree that this is unacceptable repetition of Israeli rhetoric as fact. [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 17:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think more than Hamas are being struck. If anything most aren't even Hamas. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 03:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:Dweller, That is what I mean.  It is verifiable (and undisputed) that Israel ''states'' that Hamas is the target. It is not verifiable that Hamas actually is the target (we cannot know how pilots actually select targets - we can guess from the aggregate of the targets they have hit, but we should not guess on the Wikipedia main page.)  Much more balanced that we don't open this issue in a headline.--[[User:InfantGorilla|InfantGorilla]] ([[User talk:InfantGorilla|talk]]) 10:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
::Over 2700 people are wounded, over 630 people are dead, over 300 of them are civillians while over 130 of them are children, yesterday IDF bombed a school killed 40 people, UN stated IDF already had been informed on school locations, how can we still say the attack only targets Hamas gunmen. Just yesterday they killed 75 civillians in total while they only killed 4 Hamas gunmen. They do bomb on Gaza true, yet it is not limited to Hamas gunmen or government buildings, they strike with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_(weapon) Phosphorus bombs] apparently, which targets an area instead a location. Gaza is one of the most crowded cities in the world, while you bomb a building all the other buildings around affected. I stated my objections in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:In_the_news Main Page Template Talk] in detail with clear sources. 1.5 million of people are suffering hunger and lack of medication now by Israeli blockade. We cannot present the case just like Israel strikes Hamas. 
::[http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00110/GazaMap07_110042c.jpg Gaza Map Independent]
::[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gcUECSml8TBNV82UJjUVkYddt2zgD95I7B1G0 Israel ground war drives up civilian casualties] By KARIN LAUB JERUSALEM (AP) 1 hour ago

::'''The title needs to be change immediately for apparent neutrality purposes, with stressing on high Palestinian civillian casualties.''' [[User:Kasaalan|Kasaalan]] ([[User talk:Kasaalan|talk]]) 11:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It is now expired and replaced with a Jan 7 candidate linking to the same encyclopedia article: "Israeli and Hamas forces resume fighting in Gaza after a six-month ceasefire" I support the new wording. --[[User:InfantGorilla|InfantGorilla]] ([[User talk:InfantGorilla|talk]]) 14:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 2==
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*Sri Lankan victory over LTTE is quite significant. [[Kilinochchi]] was the last big town held by LTTE. After 20 years it is back into Sri Lankan armies control. The 25 year-old of bloody civil war is about to end. Maybe I would work on it sometime later today. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 12:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the [[Battle_of_Kilinochchi_(2008–2009)#Capture]] and [[Battle_of_Kilinochchi_(2008–2009)#Effects]] section. I think we can post the below mentioned blurb now. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 12:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

:[[Sri Lanka]]'s military has [[Battle of Kilinochchi (2008–2009)|'''seized control''']] of the [[Tamil Tiger]] rebels' de facto capital of [[Kilinochchi]]. 
:--[[User:TheFEARgod|<font color="#003399">The'''FE'''</font><font color="red">'''AR'''god</font>]] ([[User talk:TheFEARgod|'''Ч''']]) 12:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Posting, changing tense to present (seizes). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 12:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

*May I suggest the death of the world's oldest person, [[Maria de Jesus]]? More information is available at [[n:Maria de Jesus, the world's oldest person, dies at age 115]]. '''[[User:Dendodge|<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Den</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:red">dodge</em>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Dendodge|Contribs]]</sup> 19:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::We could either write about the death itself, or about [[Gertrude Baines]] becoming the oldest living person. I suggest the latter, as it's less morbid. '''[[User:Dendodge|<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Den</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:red">dodge</em>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Dendodge|Contribs]]</sup> 19:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::: According to the archive, we didn't have [[Edna Parker]] on ITN when she died. I think we should discuss whether to set a precedent because news of this sort happen every couple of months, according to the world's oldest living person log. I don't have a strong opinion for or against in this case. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 19:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm going to have to oppose...I don't find it particularly noteworthy, as it happens too often, and I feel it sets a dangerous precedent. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 23:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: I oppose too. By their very nature the oldest person in the world dies all the time, since they are at the outer limit of human capacity. IMO it would only be ITN-worthy if there were really exceptional circumstances involved, such as beating the previous age record by a significant margin. [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 00:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Ok, then we can say we include the oldest person only when he/she lives longer than the previous record holder (around 122 years, if I remember correctly). --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 10:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Even I oppose inclusion of similar entries in ITN. These are mostly trivial information, with no impact on international events and on scientific community in nature(yeah, there longevity has been a matter of research, but that's all). Such entries fail [[WP:ITN/DC]]criteria#6. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 12:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==January 1==
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===ITN candidates for January 1===
*This might not really be the place for it, but ITN's 2008 archive was compiled and is listed at [[Wikipedia:ITN in 2008]]. Cheers, '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 21:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
: Well done! To save the effort for next year, a list for 2009 should probably compiled on monthly or weekly basis. And I think we should put a link to past ITN items somewhere on this page permanently, to have an archive. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 23:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::Monthly is a good idea, because wording gets changed over time (deaths updates, moves, etc.) I'll create one at [[Wikipedia:ITN in 2009]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 23:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Since adding items to this archive would not require admin access - I may also be able to give a helping hand as and when possible. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 07:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

*This is a bit early setup but anyway. Do we have any significant events on January 1? [[New Turkish Lira]] is being renamed with a change of paper money, maybe ITN material? [[Czech Republic]] assuming the presidency of the EU. And many more... --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 14:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
:Actually [[Slovakia]] taking the [[euro]] is the most significant event.--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 18:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::Agree with Avala. We already have an updated article: [[Enlargement_of_the_eurozone#Slovakia]]. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 23:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:'''Nom''': [[Slovakia]] '''[[Enlargement_of_the_eurozone#Slovakia|adopts]]''' the [[euro]] ''(pictured [[Slovak euro coin]])'' and becomes the 16th member of the [[eurozone]]. --[[User:Hapsala|Hapsala]] ([[User talk:Hapsala|talk]]) 02:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
: Posting (someone upload the image, please). Happy New Year! --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 09:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:: By the way, shall we include the Turkish Lira in the same blurb since they are both about currency? Or is it less newsworthy? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 12:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It's just a redesign it seems. Not that important I think.--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 13:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Nom''': [[Gazprom]] cuts off [[Russia–Ukraine gas disputes|gas deliveries to Ukraine]] after failure of negotiations over gas price. -- [[User:Beagel|Beagel]] ([[User talk:Beagel|talk]]) 10:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:'''Rationale''': Already quite traditional news, but having influence to most of the EU countries. [[User:Beagel|Beagel]] ([[User talk:Beagel|talk]]) 10:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Conditional support. We don't have any responses or effects but I guess it will take some time to see the consequences. So this can probably go up. Any other opinions? --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 12:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Let's wait to see how long the supplies remain cut-off. If there is a serious shortage affecting multiple countries, then this should go up - as of now - the shortage is simply "expected". Avoid speculation. Maybe Russia would resume supply till then. --[[User:gppande|<font color="red" face="cursive">'''GP'''</font>]][[User talk:gppande|<font color="black" face="cursive">'''Pande'''</font>]] 13:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

* I wonder if [[2009 Guwahati bombings]] is "business as usual" or a significant news item.  I am not sure if this is "ITN-worthy", but I really don't know enough about terrorism in India to tell. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 15:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think its worth putting up, but the refs need some cleanup first. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I don't know, explosions on such scale have recently happened in Sri Lanka, Iraq and Gaza as well... In my opinion it really depends on the significance but I can't say anything here. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 10:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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