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==="English Wikipedia"===
Hi, I just clicked through on your second mention of:
:I'll bring it up again: [[Zoë Baird]]. Not an entertainment figure, and therefore the "stage name" theory doesn't apply. Not one of those darn foreigners, either. To borrow your metaphor, if you think the "ë" is a weed, then you're not tending your own garden unless you make the effort to uproot it. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 17:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::In time, those non-English symbols will be removed. GoodDay (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2012 (UTC) 
It now amusingly has a [[Saša Hiršzon]] style "'''Zoë Baird''' (English ''Zoe Baird'')" tennis lede :). Cheers. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

:I'm speechless. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 03:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE stop stalking my edits, PT. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 04:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:Please explain [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zo%C3%AB_Baird&diff=prev&oldid=494565362 this edit]. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 04:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
::No diacritics in the ''English'' alphabet & this is the ''ENGLISH language Wikipedia''. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 04:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:::The person in question is a (presumably native-born) English-speaking American.  There is no need to transliterate her name from English to English.  PS, it is unhelpful to delete messages on your talk page. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 05:13, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

== Cities and towns in Quebec ==

Let me tell you about the category. You don't need to put the Category:Cities and towns in Quebec on every city name for article titles. The category:Cities and towns in Quebec is always on every eponymous category title. For example the category title ''Category:Gatineau'' should be as always on Category:Cities and towns in Quebec not on the article. Do not put the Category:Cities and towns in Quebec in article titles that already has eponymous categories. OK? Don't do double categorize. Thanks. [[User:Steam5|Steam5]] ([[User talk:Steam5|talk]]) 14:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:Please read the message I posted on your talk page (sorry for the screwup where I forgot to put a ":" before "Category" in the link, I have now reposted).  The real issue is that the eponymous categories don't belong under [[:Category:Cities and towns in Quebec]], as they already have their own separate category hierarchy.  Most of the things under [[:Category:Gatineau]] are not cities or towns, and therefore this should not be a subcategory of the cities and towns category. The "real" name of "Category:Gatineau" would be "Miscellaneous things associated in some way with the city of Gatineau", which would make it clearer that this should not be subcategorized under cities and towns. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 15:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

== Arbitration case opened ==

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay]]. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by {{#time: F j|{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}{{#if:|, {{{3}}}}} +14 day}}{{#if:|, {{#switch:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{{3}}}|December {{#expr: 32 - 14}}, {{{3}}}={{#expr:  + 1}}|}}}}, 2012, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:AlexandrDmitri|Alexandr Dmitri]] ([[User talk:AlexandrDmitri|talk]]) 22:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
:In some ways I think GoodDay is just a victim here, having to some extent been egged on. The cleverer anti-French/Czech names (or anti-highMOS or whatever it is) editors strive to keep clear examples out of MOS and related pages which only prolongs debate and disruption. If there was a decent clear instruction to simply (a) spell peoples' names correctly, (b) use spelling-reliable sources, then GoodDay's spectacular car crash could have been avoided. So I have made a pre-proposal on [[WT:MOS]] to add [[Zoë Baird]] to [[WP:DIACRITICS]] as an example to prevent this sort of User meltdown happening again. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 00:30, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

== Article titles & intros ==

<s>Will you please stop with the double standard crap? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 01:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Why are you being such a [[WP:DICK|dick]], about this? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 01:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

You just keep on adding ''evidence'' bud. You're only prooving to me that you're out to bait me & hound me out of Wikipedia. Just keep up with your weazleness, PT. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 01:29, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Now you're really spitting venom, please continue. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)</s>
:The only edit I made between your two edits above was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay/Evidence&diff=496050722&oldid=496036630 here].  I hardly think most people would call that spitting venom.  Your prior message above (at 1:29) was apparently in response to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay/Evidence&diff=496036630&oldid=496008641 this edit], which merely added a single additional reference to a list of other references. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 03:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
::Your charge that I've breached my British/Irish ban, is baseless. I haven't edited or appeared on any British/Irish political article. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:29, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:::You didn't breach the ban. But it did look like you were perhaps trying to bait the person. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 03:32, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I've reverted my message on Daicaregos' page, though I do have legitimate concerns about his returning to Wikipedia. Sorry I can't elaborate. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::OK I took out the part about that. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 03:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Cool. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

==Murder of Lin Jun==
I have reverted your edit, with the comment "Undo. WP:FORK doesnt apply as this is not a POV fork, its if anything an NPOV fork". Regards, -[[User:Stevertigo|Stevertigo]] ([[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stevertigo|c]]) 04:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
:I meant [[Wikipedia:Content forking]] rather than [[WP:FORK]] (which is about mirrors).  However, it's not just POV forks that are listed as unacceptable, but also "redundant content forking". — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 04:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Repeated forking of the Luka Magnotta article ==

It appears that, once again, someone has attempted to fork the [[Luka Magnotta]] article with the recreation of [[Murder of Lin Jun]].  I'm opposed to this for several reasons: #1, We have a clear majority of '''Oppose''' votes to move the article there, and #2, having two articles covering much of the same information means that, if/when we reach a final consensus with regards to whether we should keep the article here, there, or "split" them, people's work and research will be spread around over two articles, requiring a complete rewrite.  It's not a smart idea to take it upon oneself to begin spreading information out over two articles without clear consensus IMO.  Would you please offer your opinion on the discussion at [[Talk:Luka Magnotta]]?  Thank you. --- [[User:Crakkerjakk|Crakkerjakk]] ([[User talk:Crakkerjakk|talk]]) 04:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Perth primacy issue ==

Hi, PTA. I'm normally averse to questioning competent editors, but your comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Perth,_Western_Australia&diff=495776962&oldid=495717206 here] seems to be a misrepresentation and maybe, even, a slur on my integrity as a Wikipedian. In expressing my view, I may not have used WP's bureaucratic language (which I constantly strive to avoid while happily accepting it from others), but methinks I have simply made it plain that I see neither the Australian nor the Scottish city as a valid '[[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC|primary topic]]' for any reason, and that this view has been shared and adopted by WP colleagues for a good many years. My support was therefore, ''quite unemotionally'' for the status quo, notwithstanding that I myself happen to be a proud resident of Perth, Western Australia. So, how on earth could you reasonably impute and attribute to me a belief 'that national pride would be wounded by determination of a primary topic, as though it were some kind of perceived "demotion"'?  Anyway, I'll get along out of this, resolving to resist joining such pointless disputation. There are constructive matters to attend to. Cheers, [[User:Bjenks|Bjenks]] ([[User talk:Bjenks|talk]]) 04:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:I am genuinely surprised that you interpreted my words this way.  You yourself referred to prior "emotional debate", implying that others had at times gotten emotional over this issue in the past. My point was simply that such debates should not become emotional; it should be entirely possible to have a debate and leave emotion out of it.  So the existence of a prior emotional debate in the past should not preclude having a debate today; some years have gone by since 2004 and there can be a fresh take on the subject with some new participants.  I was not implying that you yourself were being emotional or irrational.  I did find it a bit frustrating, though, that you chose to limit your response to, basically, "Let's not talk about this.  Both Perths are really glorious." rather than delving into the nitty-gritty of "here's how I would apply and interpret the specific criteria such as [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] to this particular case".  Maybe I read that as "Let's not talk about this ''because'' both Perths are really glorious." which would suggest that the reason for avoiding the discussion would be because to do so would infringe on the glory of one or the other, or "demote" it, as it were.  I guess it's clear in hindsight that this was not the point you were trying to make. Sorry about that. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 05:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

==Move review for [[Perth, Western Australia]]==
I have asked for a [[Wikipedia:Move review#Perth, Western Australia|Move review]] of [[Perth, Western Australia]]. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:MCRNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 02:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

==Perth RFAR opened==
An arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Perth]]. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Perth/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by June 28, 2012, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Perth/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Lord Roem|Lord Roem]] ([[User talk:Lord Roem|talk]]) 17:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

== Wikipedia Help Survey ==

Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a [[m:Wikimedia Fellowships|Wikimedia Community Fellow]] working on [[w:Wikipedia:Help Project/Community fellowship|a project to improve Wikipedia's help system]]. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out [https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_eri3eVaNSj7GWGw this brief survey] about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time, <br />
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==Quebec hockey RMs==
Thank you for having opened those two. Cleans up part of the legacy of disruption in this area. Odd that the bot misfired and listed the RM at the bottom with no date. If you can reinstall the date manually you may wish to amend Stephane Roy to move to [[Stéphane Roy (ice hockey b. 1967)]] since following your tracks I found that there are two, fr.wp has a different one, which I translated back to en.wp so now a disambiguator "b. 1967" is needed, thanks. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 04:01, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
:OK, I made the change.  But in any case the "b. 1967" would be an uncontroversial change even if it were applied after the fact.  Re: the date, I tried fixing it and the RM bot simply restored it back to the erroneous version. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 06:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks. Yes it would have been. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 07:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
:::As they sit in the backlog you may wish to raise an eyebrow at the objected to [[WP:Naming conventions (Czech)]] and (no one objected) [[WP:Naming conventions (French)]]. Maybe you already knew of these.  [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 10:00, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

==Editing pages moves==

Hello P.T.

It's pointless to edit [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (alt)]] and [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions]], as these pages are maintained by a bot. Your edits will only be reversed by the next run of the bot.

If you want to fix the typo, you have to edit the page where the move request is instead, as pages with move requests are input to the bot.

Regards

[[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 16:10, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
::Can you please take a look at [[Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English)]] ‎[[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 13:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
==Talkback==
{{talkback|Ww2censor|Perth|ts=05:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)}}
[[User:Ww2censor|ww2censor]] ([[User talk:Ww2censor|talk]]) 05:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
==Hi again==
FYI since your comment on Father Hambye's RM, an Indian Catholic who knew him left a comment on my Talk page which I moved there. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:No worries. Glad to see you're still around :). [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 04:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
* It's been relisted - could you clarify whether you support [[Édouard Hambye]]? It's clearish but.. Thanks [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 00:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

== Cote d'Ivoire move review ==

Will you be starting one then? [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 20:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:I'm considering it, yes, [[User_talk:Beeblebrox#C.C3.B4te_d.27Ivoire_.2F_Ivory_Coast:_possible_move_review.3F|per discussion]].  I'll wait a bit hoping for a more detailed reply. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 21:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
::His responses seem to be making it every more evident that it was a personal opinion that made him close it as Keep. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 22:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:::It's been started (by another user, as it turns out). — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 08:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

==Discussion at User_talk:Karl.brown#French_etc.==
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[User_talk:Karl.brown#French_etc.]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} [[User:Karl.brown|KarlB]] ([[User talk:Karl.brown|talk]]) 16:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)<!--Template:Please see-->

== Qc college - notable? ==

You may care to note [[user talk:RHaworth#Collège d'enseignement en immobilier]]. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 00:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
==[[Talk:Bắt đầu từ nay]]==
You just made a reasonable point, [[Bắt đầu từ nay]] isn't as straightforward as restoring the 4x cuisine ones [[Cơm tấm]], [[Bánh bò]] [[Bún chả]] [[bún bò Huế]], however vn exists as a language in HK as well and the announcement was also communicated to Vietnamese in detention centres in Hong Kong, and therefore is notable to Vietnamese irrelevant of how HK people thought it funny. I've added a source by Hong Kong-Vietnamese nun Soeur Christine Mỹ Hạnh of the Chi Ma Wan Detention Centre into the article that addresses your point. I'd agree the article is overweight to the 'fun' element. Cheers. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 05:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:I have now put Cantonese as second option. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 02:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
{{Talkback|Talk:Bat lau dung laai|Alternative move to Cantonese transcription|ts=10:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)}}

== [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Perth]] closed ==
An arbitration case involving the article [[Perth]] has been closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

# JHunterJ is advised to respond calmly and courteously to queries regarding Wikipedia-related conduct and administrator actions.
# Deacon of Pndapetzim is admonished for use of administrative tools while involved, and for reversing another administrator's legitimate administrative action without first entering into discussion.
# Kwamikagami is desysopped for use of administrative tools while involved in an editing dispute, and for reinstating a reverted administrative action without clear discussion leading to a consensus decision. He may regain the admin toolkit through a fresh request for adminship.
# Gnangarra is admonished for use of administrative tools while involved in an editing dispute, and for reinstating a reverted administrative action without clear discussion leading to a consensus decision.

For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Lord Roem|Lord Roem]] ([[User talk:Lord Roem|talk]]) 14:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

==Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling==
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} [[User:Karl.brown|KarlB]] ([[User talk:Karl.brown|talk]]) 13:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)<!--Template:Please see-->

== Edit war/close at Jelena Janković ==

As you have been a recent participant in a content dispute regarding diacritics at [[Jelena Janković]], I would ask that you read the close I made earlier today at [[Talk:Jelena_Janković#Full_protection]].  The edit war on that particular question of the lead wording is, across a wide range of articles, as I previously stated, not acceptable, and violates [[WP:EW]].

Any ''further'' reversions (of articles), in either direction on this question <s>on talk and policy pages,</s> will likely be seen as a continuation of that edit war.  Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.  --[[User:Joe Decker|j⚛e decker]][[User talk:Joe Decker|<sup><small><i>talk</i></small></sup>]] 06:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

: Update:   Apologies for the belated notice, related to this, I have started an RfC on the accent/lead question, which you may wish to participate in, at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biographies#RFC:_Names_with_diacritics_and_other_non-ASCII_letters:_Should_we_permit.2C_require.2C_or_prohibit_ASCIIfied_versions.3F].  My previous note was very poorly worded, and was meant to stop reversions on the articles themselves.  Thanks!  --[[User:Joe Decker|j⚛e decker]][[User talk:Joe Decker|<sup><small><i>talk</i></small></sup>]] 14:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
::And now at ANI. Names of the 20 who corrected Fyunck's ledes not mentioned, except I mentioned Joy. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:23, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

== Bot substitute ==
Hello P.T.
I just wanted to say that you're doing a great job as a substitute for the RM bot. Cheers. [[User:HandsomeFella|HandsomeFella]] ([[User talk:HandsomeFella|talk]]) 16:01, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, why aren't there a cluster of barnstars here? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 02:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Will split Perrig Quéméneur out of cyclists. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 14:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:OK, that makes sense. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 14:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
::Mm, makes trouble for you. Will move Adelin Benoît to 1st in list.[[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 14:33, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:::done. Done everything except fixed the central RM listing. Thanks. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 14:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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|style="border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I really appreciated your work on RM/CD while I was debugging the replacement bot.  Thanks for your patience and sorry it took me a month to get [[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] up and automated. [[User:Wbm1058|Wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 15:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks for all your efforts in writing the bot, which certainly took more non-routine effort. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 03:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

== Equivalent territory ==
Hello, P.T.

We are talking about Mirabel, and it's [[Equivalent territory (Quebec)|territory equivalent to a regional county municipality]] on fr.wikipedia. It's here [[:fr:Discussion_Projet:Québec]] you might be able to help us understand all this confusion. Maybe you have some sources to suggest ?

A translation of your article would also be great on FR. [[User:Iluvalar|Iluvalar]] ([[User talk:Iluvalar|talk]]) 16:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

== Comment on the RfC move from Burma to Myanmar ==

<s>You are very lucky that your action in starting an RfC over a move of an article from Burma to Myanmar has not landed you at ANI for disruption (and for all I know it may still). It is only by assuming good will, and drawing the conclusion that you have not read the current RfC at [[Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RM not required]], that your action over this move can be seen as non disruptive.</s> I had not noticed the date for the start of the RfC, and had assumed it was recent So I have struck out the comment. However see the current RfC at [[Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RM not required]], such requested moves should be advertised at [[WP:RM]] so

I have now created an RM process, but if you do not add a valid reason for this requested move before you make another edit to Wikipedia, I will ask for the survey to be closed on procedural grounds. 

--[[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 08:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

:There seems to be some confusion.  I am not the proposer for the Burma/Myanmar move.  That was initiated as an RM by Marcus Qwertyus.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burma&diff=506441242&oldid=505692093]  I felt that a controversial RM needed to be publicized a little more widely, beyond the usual crowd who participate in RMs, so I put notifications at Village pump (miscellaneous), at the WikiProject for Burma and neighboring countries, and at RfC for history and politics, etc.  The mechanism for doing the RfC notification was simply to put the RfC header above the pre-existing RM. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 15:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

:I don't understand your statement at [[Talk:Burma]] that "I have placed this request here so that this move is run under the auspices of the WP:RM process", nor your statement above that "I have now created an RM process".  It was always an RM process, from the start, initiated by Marcus Qwertyus, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burma&diff=506441242&oldid=505692093], and it was advertised in [[WP:RM]]. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 16:00, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

:Upon further investigation, I figured out what happened.  The original WP:RM was listed on August 8, but became delisted on August 16, as the end result of a series of edits by several different users. I created a timeline of events at [[Talk:Burma#Requested_move_.28Burma_.E2.86.92_Myanmar.29_August_2012|Talk:Burma]], please take a look. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 16:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

{{Collapsible list
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|title = Timeline of events
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|1 =          19:58, 8 August 2012: Marcus Qwertyus created a WP:RM for Burma → Myanmar.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burma&diff=506441242&oldid=505692093]
|2 =          22:28, 8 August 2012: I myself added the WP:RM notification.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Current_discussions&diff=506463424&oldid=506451528]  As you know, the RM bot is no longer functional as of July 18 and [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions]] has been being updated manually, as a stopgap solution.
|3 =          23:07, 8 August 2012: In order to publicize this potentially controversial WP:RM, I put a notification in RfC under both history/geography and politics/government/law [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABurma&diff=506468632&oldid=506466418].  It was also advertised in [[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&diff=506471053&oldid=506465002], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography|WikiProject Geography]], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics|WikiProject Politics]], the WikiProjects for Burma/Myanmar and its neighboring countries, etc.
|4 =      23:17, 9 August 2012: Marcus Qwertyus attempted to withdraw the RM and in doing so, removed the {{tl|requested move/dated}} template [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burma&diff=506640343&oldid=506633060].    
|5 =      02:38, 10 August 2012: It was revived within a few hours by Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burma&diff=506663470&oldid=506646132] but he forgot to re-add the {{tl|requested move/dated}} template.
|6 =      16:11, 16 August 2012: It was removed from WP:RM by Wbm1058 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Current_discussions&diff=507704089&oldid=507676616] with edit summary "although there is a long ongoing discussion at talk:Burma, it is no longer tagged with template:requested move/dated, which it must be to appear on this page".  It seems nobody noticed.
|7 =     Today: User:PBS relisted this at WP:RM, unaware that it had been listed earlier.
|8 =     — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette|talk]]) 17:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
}}

::Thanks, What a mess! We can not use the original proposal because it was withdrawn (so I have modified the same section putting in [[User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington]] and commenting out your addition. See [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington#Talk Burma]] for clarification. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 18:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

== Pedro III of Portugal ==

I was amazed and outraged once I learned that [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] closed the move request for [[Pedro III of Portugal]] claiming lack of consensus.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APeter_III_of_Portugal&diff=510864323&oldid=510789663] Twelve editors supported the move and only four opposed. I complained to him about how unfair and absurd was his action and that he should accept the will of the vast majority or at least reopen the move request. I'd like to ask you to [[User:Qwyrxian#Requested move|share your thoughts about it on his talk page]]. Thank you, --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 16:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
:I would suggest you try [[Wikipedia:Move review]].  The close does seem a bit of an outlier.  Right now, I personally don't have the time to pursue it myself, I'm not currently able to devote much time to Wikipedia except for simple routine edits lately. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 06:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
* Hi, this is a mass-produced message which means it may duplicate a message already on your Talk:page. As a result of the lack of reference to specific sources or guidelines such as [[WP:SOVEREIGN]], User:Qwyrxian closed the RM at [[Talk:Peter III of Portugal]] but said a new RM could be started if new evidence was presented. This I have done after discussion with Qwyrxian and User:Lecen. This means that {{fontcolor|blue|pink|your previous '''support''' or '''oppose''' will not be counted, and must be resubmitted}}. However please note Qwyrxian's request that '''support/oppose''' be made with reference to specific arguments guidelines or sources, and (quote) ''especially recommend that people don't do the "Support per person X and Y", as such comments are close to useless,'' (unquote). Thanks for your time. Best regards. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 01:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

+ PT, I see you must be busy if you're missing things on WP:RM list :) [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 01:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

== Mount Royal, Quebec requested move ==

Hi P.T., I wanted to ask you a favour. There is an article '''Mount Royal, Quebec''' is propose renaming to the new title called '''Town of Mount Royal, Quebec''' at the talk page. The new title is propose by the user named User:Tanneryvillage. I know you editing a lot of Quebec related articles. On the Mount Royal talk page under requested move, I already voted '''"super strong oppose"''' for renaming the propose title. If you're free from editing feel free to comment at Mount Royal, Quebec talk page under the section "requested move" for propose new title. I will see you at the Mount Royal, Quebec talk page. [[User:Steam5|Steam5]] ([[User talk:Steam5|talk]]) 05:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

== New Canadian election result template ==

I've created [[Template:CANelec]] to act as [[Template:Canadian election result]], except with jurisdiction as the first parameter. Observe:

{{Canadian election result/top|Example|2012}}
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If you have any proposed changes, let me know. I'll ask a bot to start switching to the new template in a few days. —[[User:Arctic.gnome|Arctic Gnome]] <small>([[User talk:Arctic.gnome|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Arctic.gnome|contribs]])</small> 06:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

== caisse ==

Can you record the pronunciation of the word caisse please ? [[User:Fête|Fête]] ([[User talk:Fête|talk]]) 21:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

==Trinity House Masters==
Hi, '''P.T. Aufrette''', I was searching for information on Captain A.R.H. Morrell and it took me to your sandbox draft on Trinity House Masters and Deputy Masters.  I've created a stub article on [[Arthur R.H. Morrell|Morrell]].  Please feel free to link to it in your draft, to increase the number of "what links here" hits that it gets. [[User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|Mr Serjeant Buzfuz]] ([[User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|talk]]) 20:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:I've also created a new category:  Members of Trinity House. [[User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|Mr Serjeant Buzfuz]] ([[User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|talk]]) 22:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


== ₹ :D ==

I noticed that back in December 2011, you decided to change the [[Template:INR|INR]] template from the ugly and problematic image file to the Unicode symbol ₹. I've now changed [[Template:INR]] to be the unicode symbol, as you had done, noticing that the idea was to try again in 6-12 months. For the record, my non-Indian laptop is two years old (albeit running a fairly modern version of Linux Mint), so I felt this was now the appropriate time to make the change, especially as it seemed you intended to revisit the matter in 6-12 months :D [[User:Xmoogle|Xmoogle]] ([[User talk:Xmoogle|talk]]) 23:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Sorry for not replying sooner, I have been offline for some time, and will probably remain somewhat inactive for a while yet.  If I recall correctly, one issue reported was that some old smartphones do not get any operating system upgrades by the manufacturer (in particular Android-based phones), and therefore were not capable of displaying the relatively new Unicode symbol.  So it may take more patience than originally expected. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 18:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

== Bromont, Quebec RCM Map ==

Hi there. Haven't done an edit since 2009, so I'll try to find the pertinent map files which are in storage in another computer. Thanks!  [[User:Gordalmighty|Gordalmighty]] ([[User talk:Gordalmighty|talk]]) 00:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Inter Milan#Requested move 3]] ==

Join the discussion!--[[User:Dipralb|Dipralb]] ([[User talk:Dipralb|talk]]) 12:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

== Vietnamese provinces; renaming discussion ==

Hello - I'm contacting you because you participated in the discussion on the proposed renaming of [[Cà Mau]] and/or [[An Giang Province]]. This is to let you know that a discussion on a number of similar proposed moves is taking place at [[Talk:Bac Ninh Province]]. [[User:Colonies Chris|Colonies Chris]] ([[User talk:Colonies Chris|talk]]) 12:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
== First Crimean War listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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::User {{user|BetterThanSuchAsYou}} renamed this article without consensus and I moved it back. This automatically created a redirect, which can be routinely cleaned up. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 02:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

== Second Crimean War listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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::User {{user|BetterThanSuchAsYou}} renamed this article without consensus and I moved it back. This automatically created a redirect, which can be routinely cleaned up. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 02:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

== Thoughts on Canadian Senate ==

I'm thinking about picking up the project again to help fill out the remaining lists needed. I'm debating about including numbered Senate divisions (ie, Quebec 24, etc), in order to track the continuity of a particular senate seat as well as vacancies over time. Some of the vacancies have significance to Canadian history (in both being left vacant and the eventual Senator appointed), and numbering them would help track this. Thoughts? I'm aware these would merely be placeholders and have no actual significance. [[User:Benkenobi18|Benkenobi18]] ([[User talk:Benkenobi18|talk]]) 15:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

:I haven't been actively editing much lately, so I don't really have any thoughts to offer about that, sorry. -- [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 07:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

== User name ==

One of the most stylish user names I've ever seen on here. Sounds like a French Canadian scholar/writer. It is your real name?♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 10:32, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

:No, it's actually just a joke name, sorry. -- [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette#top|talk]]) 11:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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