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==Possible vandalism==
There will invariably be some stupid [[chav]] who wants to vandalise Wikipedia at public IPs such as universities and schools, you will never be able to stop all students everywhere from vandalising and being stupid, so the solution is to either block them or deal with the damage.

A possible solution could be to block unregistered users that are on public IPs, but enable them to make an account and then be able to post.

'''This idea is also a good one:'''
Maybe there should be a team defining these ip's
and a permanent message '''that cannot be removed by the user of the IP''' (this template can, unfortunately)

--[[User:195.194.75.204|195.194.75.204]] 14:16, 17 November 2005 (UTC) ([[West Kent College]])

If we can get this in widespread use, the "WHAT?!  This isn't my IP!" messages may finally come to an end!  But to use it, you have to know who owns the address block.  --[[User:Ardonik|Ardonik]].[[User talk:Ardonik|talk()]][[User:Ardonik/I ate my cat|<sup>*</sup>]] 23:48, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
:I know.  I happen to be on AOL, so I can slap it on some pages before I log on.  The rest we'll have to look up when we see a vandal at that address.  Try [http://www.google-watch.org/cgi-bin/urldemo.htm] to look up the owner, that's all we'll need. &mdash; [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|<sup><font color="blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 00:00, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:Also, try [http://www.dnsstuff.com www.dnsstuff.com].  Use the IPWHOIS Lookup. &mdash; [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|<sup><font color="blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 12:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Read [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy proposal]] - it proposes this.  You can also add your comments.  --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hughcharlesparker]] 10:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== Confusion over use ==

I want to use this on my schools IP address talk page but my school does not own the IP address it uses. Is it OK to use this template? --[[User:Tomwalden|Tomwalden]] 18:07, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:Probably.  No one actually ''owns'' an IP, they just register them.  This should actually be called [[Template:Sharedip]]. By the way, what is your school's IP?  I could look up its correct owner. &mdash; [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|<sup><font color="blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 20:28, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:Okay, I've moved it to <nowiki>{{sharedip}}</nowiki> and I changed the wording so that it can be used for organizations that ''use'' IPs but don't ''own'' them.  We'll have to keep the redirect at <nowiki>{{ownedip}}</nowiki>for a while though, at least until we can fix the pages that already link there. &mdash; [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|<sup><font color="blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 20:33, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::I have already looked up my schools IP address, and it is owned by Band-X Limited, a company that sells bandwidth.--[[User:Tomwalden|Tomwalden]] 19:12, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::Okay.  Go ahead and use it then.  I see you've added it to 213.232.79.240.  good work. [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|<sup><font color="blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 19:31, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

== A note to the anon. concerned ==

I've added the following text:

''If you are the unregistered user concerned, note that this need not necessarily be the IP address of your machine. In many cases, it turns out to be the IP address of a [[proxy server]] that communicates between your browser and the [[Wikimedia]] servers. Such proxies are shared among a huge number of users compared to the number of persons using your particular machine. If you are frustrated by such irrelevant comments, consider that you could avoid them by [[Special:Userlogin|creating an account for yourself]].''

to the template, in the hope that this would reduce the no. of "this is not my IP!" comments. Note that what the template said until now only helped sysops make decisions of whether to block & didn't explain much to the anon. who actually would complain about the wrong IP address. -- [[User:Paddu|Paddu]] 20:00, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I added an "Attention:" line to hopefully get anons to read the notice before reading the other comments on the page. It may be too strong, but I'm not sure. - [[User:Evil saltine|Evil saltine]] 08:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Doesn't seem strong. In fact it took me too long to notice it :). -- [[User:Paddu|Paddu]] 19:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Comast... ==

This template has been used for Comcast addresses. Yes, it is a dynamic IP, but only when you restart your modem (and only when it's off for a really long time). I don't know anyone who does this often (In the year I've had Comcast, I have only used 2 IPs). &mdash; [[User:Ilyanep|<span style="color:gray;">Il&gamma;&alpha;&eta;&epsilon;&rho;</span>]] [[User talk:Ilyanep|<span style="color: #333333;">(T&alpha;l&kappa;)</span>'']] 04:11, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

:Seconding. I usually use Comcast and the only time I've had an IP change is when the MAC address of the machine directly connected to the Internet changes. I've managed to maintain my IP for several months. [[User:12.75.98.103|12.75.98.103]] 18:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== TOC problems ==

I'm not sure if this is a bug related to the recent upfgrade, or not.  I think the heading markup <nowiki><H3>Attention:</H3></nowiki> is causing problems.  Notice how there is now an <nowiki>[edit]</nowiki> link displayed in the template, as if it were a section in an article.  I think this <nowiki><H3>...</H3></nowiki> markup is being translated into section heading markup.  The result is that pages with a lot of sections have the TOC embedded in this template.  Also, the various <nowiki>[edit]</nowiki> links do not point ot the correct sections. This also affects {{tl|AOL}} which is based on this template. -- [[User:Gyrofrog|Gyrofrog ]] [[User_talk:Gyrofrog|(talk)]] 22:24, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
* Also see [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki 1.5 bugs#h1-h4 codes are generating tocs]]. -- [[User:Gyrofrog|Gyrofrog ]] [[User_talk:Gyrofrog|(talk)]] 22:37, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
** I've changed the heading so it uses the <nowiki>'''</nowiki>...<nowiki>'''</nowiki> markup instead. -- [[User:Gyrofrog|Gyrofrog ]] [[User_talk:Gyrofrog|(talk)]] 00:26, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

== Shared IP confusion ==

Maybe there should be a team defining these ip's, and "locking" the user talk pages so a giant pile of irrelevant messages don't gum up the works for newbies without an account, and a permanent message - "You are using an shared ip address, if you are a new wikipedian, click HERE" and have it link to an intro message?

== How to use this template ==

This should be the first section on the Talk page!

I presume you just go to a [http://www.arin.net/whois/ whois] service and copy the name of the company? [[User:Pfctdayelise|pfctdayelise]] 01:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

hmm? i thought they said anons couldnt edit? [[User:24.254.92.184|24.254.92.184]] 01:31, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree. There should be a "how to use" section. I'm guessing the same, that you use a whois service, but the page that lead me here shows a different company. I guess this means that it's changed since the last edit.  [[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]] ([[User talk:Jason Quinn|talk]]) 16:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Additional links ==

Suggest linking something in "will attempt to contact {{{1}}} and report this as network abuse" to [[WP:ISPS]]. [[User:12.75.98.103|12.75.98.103]] 18:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Consistency ==

Can someone change the attention notice on this template to be consistant with the one on {{tl|ISP}}? I would do it myself, but the template is protected :\ --[[User:Mark Yen|Mark Yen]] 19:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:I'll do that (unless someone beats me to the punch while I type this).  I thought they were closer after I made a minor change to <nowiki>{{ISP}}</nowiki> yesterday. :-/  &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Kbh3rd|Kbh3<sup>rd</sup>]][[User_talk:Kbh3rd|<font style='font-size:.7em;'>talk</font>]] 19:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)


== Great idea ==

Just placed this tag on [[User talk:62.236.76.8]]... How about a system where the IP could be banned, but a possibility to open a new account would remain? IMO that would keep the most vandals out, but let the "honest" people to contribute to Wikipedia.
--[[User:Appelshine|Appelshine]] 12:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
:Banning an IP doesn't prevent someone on that IP from opening an account or reading Wikipedia. &mdash;[[User:Kenyon|Kenyon]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Kenyon|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Kenyon|c]]) 01:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== A point of style ==

This template is appropriate for static IP's and small pools of IP's (e.g. a pool of 3-8 IP's).  If the IP address is part of a large and dynamic pool, please use [[Template:DynamicIP]]. -- [[User:71.141.230.44|71.141.230.44]] 20:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

:Why do we have both? [[User:81.244.252.19|81.244.252.19]] 18:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Placement? ==

Where is this template supposed to be placed? It is listed under [[Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_namespace|user namespace templates]], but now that I've looked at this talk page, I get the feeling that I'm about to have to go move a whole lot of templates... -[[User:Mulder416|Mulder416]] 14:43, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:I've answered my own question. I am moving this and <nowiki>{{isp}}</nowiki> to the [[Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace|user talk namespace templates]] page, where consensus has agreed that they be placed. -[[User:Mulder416|Mulder416]] 21:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

== Redirecting to a single page ==

Any reason we don't redirect all of an ISPs pages to a single page? [[User:81.244.252.19|81.244.252.19]] 18:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== category ==

you sure adding the category and thus removing the possibility of links is good? I've put in lots of these, and I almost always put a link in the parameter. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]][[User talk:Jpgordon|&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710;]] 19:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:<s>This does seem to be a pretty common thing. I've added an optional, secondary parameter where a link can be put ({{[[Template:SharedIP|SharedIP]]|Name ISP/School/etc|Link}}), which means that there's both categories and links. As I'm going to, over the next few days, be going over these talk pages to fix up the currently redlinked categories and any broken categories, like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A65.64.165.252&diff=46816533&oldid=46191781 this], it's pretty easy for me just to move the link to another part of the template. [[User:bookofjude|Jud]][[User:Bookofjude/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]] <small>([[User_talk:Bookofjude|talk]],[[Special:Contributions/Bookofjude|contribs]],[[Special:Emailuser/Bookofjude|email]])</small> 21:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)</s>
:Having rethought this, I've changed the optional secondary parameter to the category. For example, ({{[[Template:SharedIP|SharedIP]]|Link|Category name}}), which means that there's both categories and links. This shouldn't break things as much as they currently are. [[User:bookofjude|Jud]][[User:Bookofjude/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]] <small>([[User_talk:Bookofjude|talk]],[[Special:Contributions/Bookofjude|contribs]],[[Special:Emailuser/Bookofjude|email]])</small> 00:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks. The categories didn't make sense for a lot of the usages -- there would have suddenly been a zillion red categories with only one member.--[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]][[User talk:Jpgordon|&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710;]] 02:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== my changes ==

I have added what I consider to be a vital piece of information to the template: ''However, you will still be unable to edit Wikipedia while the IP you are using is blocked.'' I've thought about adding another sentence referencing the [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy proposal]] and/or [[bugzilla:550]], but I hesitate to link to either because the former might attract vandals, and the latter might be too "technical"(or "esoteric"? maybe "relying-on-knowledge-of-the-concept-of-bugs-in-software"?) to be useful to most people who will need to read this template. [[User:Phoenix-forgotten|Phoenix-forgotten]] 18:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I'm confused.  Phoenix-forgotten's change makes sense to me, but Paddu changed it to refer specifically to autoblocks.  But creating an account won't help someone with a blocked IP no matter what kind of block it is, right?  Does it matter whether it's an autoblock, or whether the IP has been manually blocked?  --[[User:Amcbride|Allen]] 18:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

== "only block in case of extreme vandalism" ==
I think this notice is without consensus (and goes against actual practice).  I'm going to remove it.  If there are good reasons to reinstate it, please discuss first.  --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 19:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

:I agree, but it seems to have reappeared.  It would seem to me that there is much less reason to have it now that the new blocking mechanism doesn't affect registered users as the collatoral damage is reduced. [[User:kcordina|Kcordina]] <sup> [[User talk:Kcordina|Talk]] </sup> 11:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Wikipedia:Blocking policy proposal ==

As a result of [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]]'s [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=15482 recent work] on [[MediaWiki]] [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550 Bug 550], it's now possible to [[WP:BP#Options for IP blocks|soft block]] IP addresses.  I've added the line " - if a block is needed, administrators should consider using a [[WP:BP#Options for IP blocks|soft block]]." to the end of the first paragraph.  --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 18:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

== Assume good faith ==

I think we should get rid of the line that says:

::'''In the event of [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] from this address, efforts will be made to contact {{{1}}} to [[Wikipedia:Abuse reports|report network abuse]].'''

The whole point behind this template should be [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] &mdash; specifically here, avoiding guilt by association. Therefore it is inappropriate to shout warnings at people. The template already lists the organisation above, so people dealing with abuse will already know who to report it to.

Bear in mind that this template ought to be usable in cases where there is no ''abuse'' associated with a particular shared IP address but it is still useful to note that not all the contributions necessarily come from the same user.  The more that the wording assumes likely abuse, the less useful the template becomes for that purpose.

Thanks. &mdash;&nbsp;''[[User:Alan012|Alan]]''<sup>[[User talk:Alan012|✉]]</sup> 14:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: Speaking as a person at times dealing with abuse, it's a useful line, both as a warning to users, and as a hint to people dealing with abuse that it should be done. Note that IP addresses will rarely check their own talk page just for fun it's mainly to respond to messages they've gotten. Unmodified talk pages are seen more often by people who want to talk to the IP user. Taking the liberty of removing {{tl|editprotected}}. If you still don't agree, put it back, and a different admin will respond. [[User:AnonEMouse|AnonEMouse]] <sup>[[User_talk:AnonEMouse|(squeak)]]</sup> 21:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with AnonEMouse. Otherwise a Shared IPs becomes an open chequebook for immature vandals who think they can keep on getting away with it. As long as the notice doesn't directly accuse the editor of being a vandal, it's not a breach of assuming good faith in my honest opinion. -- <small><span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:Netsnipe|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:#003333"> &nbsp;Netsnipe&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Netsnipe|<span style="background-color:#003333; color:White">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 04:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== Prefered method of usage ==

Is subst'ing this template preferred or only optional? If its preferred I could go through with AWB and subst them all. - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor]] [[User talk:Trevor MacInnis|MacInnis]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Trevor MacInnis|Contribs]])</small> 04:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:No. Do not subst: this template. It makes changes in policy or rewording this template very difficult. -- <small><span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:Netsnipe|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:#003333"> &nbsp;Netsnipe&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Netsnipe|<span style="background-color:#003333; color:White">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 05:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::What other templates does this apply to? For example, {{tl|SharedIPEDU}} ? --[[User:Geniac|Geniac]] 18:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

== Suggested addition: address|phone|e-mail ==

I think it would be helpful for editors if the template provided for not only the name of the owner of the IP, but address, phone and e-mail contact address (for abuse). When anonymous users contemplate vandalizing, they will see that they are not so anonymous, being only one step away from being contacted personally. In some cases, this may be more effective than blocking. I can add all that info in now, but if it is part of the template, other editors will be prompted to fill in anything missing. Besides, there might be some useful text that could be added to clarify things. For example, "Serious vandalism or violation of Wikipedia policy will be reported to the following e-mail address." Any thoughts? [[User:Cbdorsett|Cbdorsett]] 16:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:Are you suggesting putting the contact details of the internet service provider or the individual?  If you mean the ISP, then that information isn't hard to find, and I doubt anyone would be impressed that we'd managed to track it down.  If you mean the individual user then I don't think that's possible.  From an IP address it's possible to find out the name of the internet service provider easily enough, but to then find out the name/address/phone/email of the individual user of that IP address isn't possible without the co-operation of the ISP.  In Britain it would be illegal for the ISP to co-operate in that way except under certain circumstances involving law enforcement, and I suspect it's similar elsewhere in the world.  Anyway, the whole point of this template is that it's applied to shared IPs: addresses used by several different people.  --[[User:Hughcharlesparker|Hugh<small>Charles</small>Parker]] <small>([[User talk:Hughcharlesparker|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Hughcharlesparker|contribs]])</small> 22:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

:That info for the ISP is already available via the WHOIS link at the bottom of IP-based users' talk pages (for instance at the bottom of [[User talk:127.0.0.2]]) courtesy of the nice folks at DNSStuff.  While the addition of that info for the ISPs directly on those pages would probably increase the fear factor for our newbie IP vandals, unless we somehow masked the email addresses, I would imagine some ISPs would be up in arms about revealing their email addresses. &nbsp; — [[User:JeffGent|Jeff G.]] <span class="plainlinksneverexpand">([[User talk:JeffGent|talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/User:JeffGent|contribs]])</span> 04:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

::I also agree that this would be of little benefit each time an editor visits an IP user talk page. However while we're on the topic of WhoIS, could there be an IP physical '''location''' variable included in the template. I used to use VandalIP template and put the WhoIS city in brackets next to the provider. It is a way of showing we know who vandals connect through and (usually) what city or country they are in. A reasonable deterrent for vandals without biting the newbies. --[[User:Breno|Bren]] <sup>[[User talk:Breno|talk]]</sup> 01:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== Merge from VandalIP ==

I noticed all the VandalIP tags have now been merged here to SharedIP. I kinda liked the VandalIP template as it was only 2 paragraphs and to the point, without going into the technical stuff, so would fit on the top of an IP usertalk page without taking up too much space.<sup>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Vandalip&oldid=81058895]</sup> I think for the average new user, the XFF, admin blocking, and IT guy paragraphs might be too overwhelming. Would others agree to make this template collapsible, say after the first 2 paras, and expand the rest only if a More button is clicked?

Also, on a minor note, VandalIP and ISP etc templates use the light blue background template. Whilst I don't know the official boilerplate policy for things like this, users with SharedIP have done nothing wrong on Wikipedia, so can this template change from orange to light blue? Thanks --[[User:Breno|Bren]] <sup>[[User talk:Breno|talk]]</sup> 02:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sorry you didn't catch the [[Template talk:Vandalip#Merge with Template:SharedIP|merge debate]], but as the date on the diff you posted shows, that template's been longer than two lines for a while now.

:I don't think the idea of making this template collapsible would be a good idea. All of the information (with the exception of one line to admins regarding blocking) is intended for the people editing from the IP. Hiding that information will just make it harder for them to use it. &mdash;[[User:Elipongo|Elipongo]] <small>([[User_talk:Elipongo|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elipongo|contribs]])</small> 02:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

::The diff was from last October. There have been no updates to the template till end of May, when the merger and XFF groups made changes. Even then it was still 2 paras when it merged.

::I just feel that SharedIP is overly long and does not assume good faith of the user as well as ''(I know the name is ironic)'' VandalIP. If a collapsible secion is not appropriate I'd love to hear some other ideas. Thanks. --[[User:Breno|Bren]] <sup>[[User talk:Breno|talk]]</sup> 15:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:::I don't see it as assuming good or bad faith either way; it gives some pretty neutral information. This is an IP tag, not a welcome template. The only time a casual/new user is going to see it is if someone posts a message/warning to their IP's talk page. This tag explains why it might be the case that someone's getting messages/blocks caused by others' behavior and what they can do about it.

:::On the subject of welcome templates, I always post a welcome template such as {{tl|Welcome-anon-vandal}} to IP pages (see [[User talk:151.199.194.147]] for an example). I think more people should do this and also conform to the layout at [[WP:UW]] too.&mdash;[[User:Elipongo|Elipongo]] <small>([[User_talk:Elipongo|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elipongo|contribs]])</small> 17:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== Attention? ==

Why is "attention" in bold red print?  It might look better in smaller print.  [[User:68.49.208.76|68.49.208.76]] 04:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Wording and over-asumption of good faith ==

Why can't this template simply say:

"This IP is shared by many people/a company/a school and already has a history of nonconstructive edits to the Wikipedia project. Registration of a user name is required to edit from this IP address."

And then simply block non-logged in edits from the IP? Instead we allow it to persist on the hopes that more good edits will come from it than bad ones, yet IPs like this have a dark history of being little more than extra work for other editors. But we can't block it cause that would keep "potentially" good editors out. Does anyone else think smiling politely at the burglars will make them leave our stuff in the house? Or do you feel that keeping the window open is just letting more bugs in? --[[User:AeronPrometheus|AeronPrometheus]] ([[User talk:AeronPrometheus|talk]]) 10:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== External link ==

The hostname WHOIS EL appears to now require a subscription. I didn't want to fix it in case there is a guideline as to what service to use, but it will need switched. [[User:JeremyMcCracken|JeremyMcCracken]] ([[user talk:JeremyMcCracken|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/JeremyMcCracken|contribs]]) 19:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Domain name hyperlink to dnsstuff broken ==

{{tl|editprotected}}
Please remove the hyperlink from the "host" parameter value to the corresponding link on dnsstuff.com. It now brings up a "Where are my DNSstuff results?" page with sales offers. -- [[User:Danorton|Danorton]] ([[User talk:Danorton|talk]]) 02:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:{{done}}, switched to [http://openrbl.org/ openrbl]. <font face="Broadway">[[User:Mr.Z-man|Mr.]][[User talk:Mr.Z-man|'''''Z-'''man'']]</font> 22:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

==Code efficiency, subst template identity tag==
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To eliminate unnecessary includeonly tags, and reposition the subst template identity tag, please replace the existing code with the following:
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<div name="Attention notice" class="messagebox standard-talk" id="attention" style="padding: 5px 10px 5px 10px;">
<div style="font-size: 2em; color: red;">[[Image:Information_icon.svg|25px]] '''''Attention:'''''</div>

This {{ #if: {{{host|}}} | host, '''[http://www.robtex.com/dns/{{{host}}} {{{host}}}]''' | [[IP address]], <includeonly>'''{{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}'''</includeonly><noinclude>''(IP address appears here)''</noinclude> }}, is registered to '''{{{1}}}''' and may be shared by multiple users. If the organization uses [[proxy server]]s or [[Firewall (networking)#Network address translation|firewalls]], this IP address may in fact represent many users at many physical computers.

For this reason, a message intended for one person may be received by another and a block may be shared by many. If you are editing from this address and are frustrated by irrelevant messages, you can avoid them by '''[[Special:Userlogin|creating an account]]''' for yourself. In some cases, you may temporarily be unable to create an account due to efforts to deal with [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]; if so, please see [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?#Blocked?|here]].

If you are [[Wikipedia:Autoblock|autoblocked]] repeatedly, we encourage you to contact your [[Internet service provider]] or IT department and ask them to contact [[Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia's]] [[meta:XFF project|XFF project]] about enabling [[X-Forwarded-For]] HTTP headers on their [[proxy server]]s so that our editing blocks will affect only the intended user. Alternatively, you can list the IP at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject on XFFs]].
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<span style="font-size: 90%">Caution should be used when blocking this IP or reverting its contributions without checking - if a block is needed, administrators should consider using a [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Setting block options|soft block]] with the template <tt>{&#123;[[Template:anonblock|anonblock]]&#124;''optional comment''&#125;}</tt> as the block reason.</span>
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| style="text-align:center" |'''Note:''' In the event of [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] from this address, [[WP:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to your network administrator for further investigation.
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--[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 22:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] ([[User talk:Commander Keane|talk]]) 04:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Code tweaks ==

I've made some minor tweaks to the template, removing unneeded whitespace and the <code>name="Attention notice"</code> declaration. the <code>name</code> attribute is usually used on HTML forms; to the best of my knowledge it confers no semantic value here. If anyone disagrees with this please ping me and I'll revert it. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 17:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

== Upgrades to appearance ==

I put forward [[User:Bsherr/sandbox2]] as a proposed change to this template. The code at this sandbox would use a new symbol and descriptive heading, adopt tmbox, make a few changes to text for conciseness only, and reorder information presented. I believe these changes will also make the code of this template friendlier for editors. Any comments? --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 21:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

{{tlx|editprotected}}
Since I think this is relatively uncontroversial, replace page with [[User:Bsherr/sandbox2]] per [[WP:BRD]]. Let's see what happens. Thanks. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 23:19, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, let's give it a spin. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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Updated wording of text for accuracy and conciseness, and included innovations incorporated into Shared IP edu. Replace with [[Template:SharedIP/Sandbox]]. Thanks. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 20:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:{{done|updated}} &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:41, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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Further consistency edits with other SharedIP templates, reducing margins around message boxes. Please replace with sandbox. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 16:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:{{done}} &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:57, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Possible broken code in template parsing ==

Adding a (host=) parameter appears to result in displaying extraneous info, which looks like some sort of CGI code.  Specific example: the template code 
:<nowiki>{{isp|Qwest Communications Company, LLC|host=LODESTAR NETWORKS LTD}}</nowiki> 
generates the text 
:"This host, NETWORKS LTD&submit=Go! LODESTAR NETWORKS LTD (72.165.211.86 ), is registered to Qwest Communications Company, LLC, an Internet service provider..." 
--[[User:N5iln|Alan the Roving Ambassador]] ([[User talk:N5iln|talk]]) 22:30, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

:Yuck. Indeed. The problem is that a space in the host name breaks the hyperlink. I'm going to have to think on this one. Anyone got a ready solution? --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 04:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
::Fixed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Shared_IP&diff=397445687&oldid=396556210]. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) 05:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
::In fact, I had to fix that same issue on ''all'' of the shared IP templates: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101118052315&limit=11&contribs=user&target=Magog+the+Ogre&namespace=10]. Perhaps we should combine these into a single template so we don't have so much duplicate code... [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) 05:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Editprotected request involving this template ==

This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at [[Template talk:!#Edit request from Cymru.lass, 28 December 2010|Template talk:!]] [[User:Cymru.lass|cymru.lass]] <sup>[[User talk:Cymru.lass|(hit me up)]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cymru.lass|(background check)]]</sub> 20:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Update ==

After closing [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_February_21|this TfD]], I have boldly updated the code to use the friendlier version as suggested.  Please feel free to revert this change if it is controversial or causes a problem.  Thanks! [[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]] [[User talk:Plastikspork|<sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ</sub><sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)</sup>]] 23:34, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

== Static IPs ==

The documentation for Shared IP currently says "Where there is no indication of this, or where the IP appears to be static and used by only one person, the template should not be used."  Does this imply to not use Shared IP but use a more appropriate template at [[:Category:Shared IP header templates]] like {{tl|Static IP}}, or does it mean static IPs used by one person should not use any IP templates?—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 07:06, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:In the absence of an original rationale, I will reword to suggest using {{tl|Static IP}} instead.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 01:28, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

{{editprotected|ans=y}}
Please remove the following:

<code><nowiki>In response to vandalism from this IP address, [[Wikipedia:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to its network administrator for investigation.</nowiki></code>

The Abuse Response project has been marked as historical. —/[[User:Mendaliv|'''M'''<small>endaliv</small>]]/<sup><small>[[User talk:Mendaliv|2¢]]</small></sup>/<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/Mendaliv|Δ's]]</small></sub>/ 16:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think that should be left, but just unlinked. [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 02:17, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
::{{done}} &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

== RSS-Atom feed notice wording change ==

{{edit protected|<!-- Page to be edited -->|answered=yes}}
<!-- Begin request -->
I have a suggestion for a wording change: The RSS-Atom feed notice would read better if "Network administrators, to monitor..." were changed to "Network administrators wishing to monitor..." [[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
<!-- End request -->
[[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> I also added "or other parties" to make it clear people other than network administrators are allowed to do that. [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 14:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

== Edit request - WHOIS service update ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Shared IP|Template:Shared_IP_edu|Template:Shared IP address (public)|Template:Shared IP gov|Template:Shared_IP_corp|Template:Static IP|Template:Dynamic IP|Template:Mobile IP|Template:ISP|answered=yes}}
The WHOIS services linked to from within these templates are either offline (in the case of the old Toolserver service), only permit so many queries per day from a given IP (in the case of the <code>domaintools.com</code> one), or only provide a raw WHOIS response, which isn't exactly easy to read unless you're familiar with WHOIS (the <code>dnstools.com</code> one).

I've created a [https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois WHOIS query service] on the new Tool Labs system, and propose that it is used over the current set. The sandbox for this template [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AShared_IP%2Fsandbox&diff=636479645&oldid=543105266 shows] the appropriate changes - the only section which has changed is the third paragraph:

<pre style="white-space:pre-line"><nowiki>
 Your {{ #if: {{{host|}}} |host, '''<code>[https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois/domain/{{urlencode:{{{host}}}}} {{{host}}}]</code>''' ('''<code>[https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois/ip/{{urlencode:{{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}}} {{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}]</code>''')|[[IP address]], <includeonly>'''<code>[https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois/ip/{{urlencode:{{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}}} {{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}]</code>'''</includeonly><noinclude><code>''IP address''</code></noinclude>}}, <includeonly>{{#if:{{{1|}}}|</includeonly>is registered to '''{{{1}}}''' and <includeonly>}}</includeonly> may be shared by multiple users, so you might receive messages on this page that were not intended for you. 
</nowiki></pre>

The same change can be applied to all the templates listed above, as they are almost identical. <sup>(perhaps some factoring can be done here at some point...?)</sup>

The related template {{tlx|Whois}} is a little different, so I've [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWhois%2Fsandbox&diff=636485445&oldid=617833863 created] a separate sandbox version for that one. &ndash; [[User:Reticulated Spline|Reticulated Spline]] <sup>([[User talk:Reticulated Spline|t]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Reticulated Spline|c]])</sup> 17:52, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ETp --> I completely support the goal of this edit requests, but there needs to be a few "tweaks" before it is ready for a [[WP:PER]].  First, I notice in {{Diff|Template:Shared IP\sandbox|636479645|543105266|the sandbox diff}} that you are forcing https:// - toollabs supports relative urls, and they should be used here.  Also, since we have the internal wikilink of "toollabs" for stuff on labs, I'd suggest replacing those external links with:
:* <code style="font-family: inherit;"><nowiki>[[:toollabs:splinetools/whois/domain/{{urlencode:{{{host}}}}}|{{{host}}}]]</nowiki></code>
:* <code style="font-family: inherit;"><nowiki>[[:toollabs:splinetools/whois/ip/{{urlencode:{{{ip|{{{{{subst:|}}}PAGENAME}}}}}}}|{{urlencode:{{{ip|{{{{{subst:|}}}PAGENAME}}}}}}}]]</nowiki></code>
: which avoids the issue altogether and results in [[:toollabs:splinetools/whois/domain/{{urlencode:{{{host|wikimedia.org}}}}}|{{{host|wikimedia.org}}}]] (spoofing "wikimedia.org" as the parameter passed) and [[:toollabs:splinetools/whois/ip/{{urlencode:{{{ip|208.80.154.224}}}}}|{{urlencode:{{{ip|208.80.154.224}}}}}]] (spoofing "208.80.154.224" which is registered to "wikimedia.org" as the pagename/ip parameter assumed/passed).  Also, I notice that the "Whois" template seems to have an "alternative" lookup, and the code for that is exactly the same as what it is for the IP and has no reason to be duplicated.  Please remove. — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]&#125;&#125; <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 18:26, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for the corrections, I had no idea we had an IW prefix for Tool Labs - templates duly amended to take advantage of it. The strange extra parameter from {{tlx|Whois}} has been consigned to the bit-bucket as well; hadn't noticed that existed. Just as an aside, why would forcing HTTPS have been a bad thing, seeing as we're not downloading assets to include in a page, but merely linking to a page? My understanding was that scheme-relative URLs were only really of use when including JS/CSS within a page (particularly ones served over HTTPS) - could be talking rubbish here though! &ndash; [[User:Reticulated Spline|Reticulated Spline]] <sup>([[User talk:Reticulated Spline|t]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Reticulated Spline|c]])</sup> 00:32, 4 December 2014 (UTC)