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Comment about your ANI close
editI'm not sure if it should have been closed at all, it doesn't seem like there was much of a conclusion to it (and yes sure, you're an admin, but it didn't read like you were advising them as an admin, but instead summarizing it - but maybe that's just me), but if you're going to close it you should at least mention that the OP was page blocked because of their hostile edit summaries? – 2804:F1...EA:6CE2 (talk) 04:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Assuming we're talking about this, that seems like a sperate issue from their .... unlikely accusations. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, fine. I just had both forgotten that you were an admin (before editing my message to acknowledge you are) and read it as if it was a summarization closure - from that point of view it seemed insufficient to just give advice that the discussion (that ended days before) didn't give and not mention the boomerang block. Sorry. – 2804:F1...92:375B (talk) 05:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
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Need a help need copies of deleted articles
editI need 2 pages Dalit Dastak and National Dastak.I found your name in the list of Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles hence requesting you. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Done Now at User:Pharaoh of the Wizards/Dalit Dastak and User:Pharaoh of the Wizards/National Dastak. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)- Thank you very much for your prompt response.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
File:Fuad Shukr handout.png listed for discussion
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A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Fuad Shukr handout.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of "Forced Islamization of the Samaritans"
editHello
I wrote yesterday a new article "Forced Islamization of the Samaritans", i find out today that it qas deleted completely, i don't understand why. Can you explain it to me please? Enhazaam (talk) 06:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @Enhazaam: Did you check the deletion log? There are some blue links in the entry: try them. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could you please explain the connection to the Israel-Arab conflict? Enhazaam (talk) 10:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Enhazaam:, that kind of article would take an experienced editor a lot of work just to maintain neutrality and faithful adherence to reliable sources. You may have achieved that; I can't see what you wrote. But unfortunately it does not matter because topics associated with the Israel-Arab conflict have been placed under restrictions by the arbitration committee as a result of previous disruption. The link in the log takes you to the relevant page—WP:CT/A-I (or, 'Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict'). The restriction that applied to you, unfortunately, is that
only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area
. You are not, so you cannot. SerialNumber54129 11:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)- Hello
- I fail to see how the Samaritans have anything to do with the Israeli-Arab conflict. They are ethno-religious people who have been persecuted for centuries. I simply wrote an article about the known fact, that they were persecuted and forced into Islam following the Levant being conquered by the Arabs.
- The Israeli-Arab conflict is not an issue related to this part of history. Enhazaam (talk) 12:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear, neither I nor the person who nominated the article for deletion have accused you of acting with bad faith or malice. However, the defined scope of this contentious topic designation instructs users that it is to be broadly interpreted, and in light of that I think it is a reasonable position that the forced Islamization of a group of Hebrew people dwelling within the borders of historical Israel is subject to the WP:CTOP rules placed by the Arbitration Committee. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for your clarification on the subject. Enhazaam (talk) 11:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello
- I'm sorry to open this again. It's just I put a lot of work into the article... Will I be able to republish the article at some point? When will that be possible? I just want to be sure, so that I don't work for nothing... Thank you Just Step Sideways in advance. Enhazaam (talk) 11:11, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hypothetically you can re-create it as soon as your account is extended-confirmed. However I would also note that shortly before it was deleted it was tagged for WP:NPOV issues as well. My suggestion would be that when the time comes, I could undelte it and draftify it for you so that could be worked out first. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- That would be very kind of you. Thank you! Enhazaam (talk) 14:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hypothetically you can re-create it as soon as your account is extended-confirmed. However I would also note that shortly before it was deleted it was tagged for WP:NPOV issues as well. My suggestion would be that when the time comes, I could undelte it and draftify it for you so that could be worked out first. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear, neither I nor the person who nominated the article for deletion have accused you of acting with bad faith or malice. However, the defined scope of this contentious topic designation instructs users that it is to be broadly interpreted, and in light of that I think it is a reasonable position that the forced Islamization of a group of Hebrew people dwelling within the borders of historical Israel is subject to the WP:CTOP rules placed by the Arbitration Committee. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- For the benefit of any other confused British or Irish stumbling on this topic - it was about the Samaritans, not The Samaritans. Cabayi (talk) 11:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Soft deletion
editHello, JSS,
I see you are becoming active in closing AFDs. If a discussion just has a deletion nomination and one editor arguing for Deletion, our regular closers close these discussions as "Soft Deletions" per WP:NOQUORUM. This is due to the low participation in the discussion and this closure allows for restoration of the article at a later time should an editor wish to work on the article and improve it. This doesn't happen with a straight Deletion closure. Our biggest problem in AFDLand these days is low participation in most discussions and a Soft Deletion acknowledges that fact.
If you use XFDcloser, which I hope you do, you'll notice that you can check a box to make the deletion a Soft Delete. Please consider doing this in the future if you agree with the policy I linked to. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've been using it when there seems to be a compelling reason to do so. It is a shame that so many AFDs seem to either attract either way too many comments or almost none at all. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, and realizing the utility of XFD closer is exactly what led to me getting active in this again. It's so easy now. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you
editClosing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag (2nd nomination) was never going to be a walk in the park. The creating editor (autobiographer) deserved a consensus, and I believe that she now has one. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was bored and thought "I'll close some AFDs" and of course that was the last one open for the day because nobody wanted to deal with it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Hello, JSS,
Unfortunately, this article isn't eligible for Soft Deletion as it either was PROD'd in 2019. Soft Deletions are like PRODs, articles are only eligible for a Soft Deletion if a) they haven't been PROD'd or to AFD before and b) there are no Keep votes. It's important to review the article page history. So, I think this AFD will have to be closed as a straight Delete. I hope my earlier message wasn't confusing.
Thank you for helping out at AFDLand, we can always use a few more discussion closers! Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well dammit, I have to admit I did not check the talk page before choosing that option. That's entirely on me. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Twinkle Works
editThank you for helping me get Twinkle on my account. Apologies again for the ANI post. Thanks, TeaLoverHistoryGuy (talk) 23:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Anytime, it's a great tool that I've been using for a very long time. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 01:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
October 2024
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Username comment
editJust wanted to say that I agree with you after seeing your comment, I was focused on the words themselves and not the message itself. 331dot (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Cool. I figured it was something like that, and I wouldn't block for "tit" on its own either. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Minor Arbcom-thing
editHello! I sometimes watch the request/case pages etc, and I have a comment. When you add to your original statement like this [1] without signing, it introduces some mild confusion, making it look like all of it was the original statement, and that is not how the other commentators are doing it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I kinda realized that yesterday, but if I go back and sign it piece-by-piece now the timestamps will all be the same/wrong... I guess I could use indenting. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- That helped. Now it only looks like you exclude signatures just to be a pain in the ass ;-) But again, good enough. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Turns out you also can't use the reply tool if comments are unsigned, apparently, so I shot myself in the foot a little bit there. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- That helped. Now it only looks like you exclude signatures just to be a pain in the ass ;-) But again, good enough. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed decision posted regarding Yasuke
editIn the open Backlash to diversity and inclusion arbitration case (also called Yasuke), in which you offered a preliminary statement, the proposed findings and remedies have been posted—though you are not mentioned in any of them. If you wish, you may review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. SilverLocust 💬 00:33, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Heads up: your unblock of GageCSayre
editI was pleasantly surprised to see you slash through red tape and lift that ancient block, which was a refreshing change of pace after your stonewalling of a similar request some time ago; HOWEVER, I believe in doing so you might've overlooked a relevant bit of information.
In their unblock request, the user claims to be User:RoyalRumble24, who is tagged as a sock of User:Alexcas11, who in turn is tagged as a banned LTA.
It is, of course, entirely possible that the connection was made in error (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Alexcas11/Archive doesn't even mention "RoyalRumble24" as far as I can tell), but I think we can both agree that this isn't something to just ignore. If you disagree, please make a statement to that effect for the record.
Thank you. 78.28.44.127 (talk) 07:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is what I get for trying to AGF and look for a simple solution. I think I'm still inclined to just wait and see given the amount of time involved. The unblock doesn't really change anything as they apparently can't access that account, so if they don't immediately go back to creating hoaxes there's no issue, and if they do... banhammer. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- As the instigator of that thread I kind of feel the same way. +1 for them trying to be transparent though, when they could have just not mentioned all the extra socks. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 23:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that effectively allowing a banned LTA back on the site isn't a call that a single admin can make. By simply unblocking, we're setting the editor up for failure.
- Think about it: the best case scenario is that the user becomes a productive contributor, at some point gets into a dispute with someone over something (which is quite literally unavoidable), that someone decides to use the fact that the user is still technically banned to get the upper hand, and all hell breaks loose (with you at the center of it probably).
- Instead of leaving the siteban situation effectively unresolved, we should follow the normal procedure: start with a CU check on TheAmazingCoffeeMan (I'm sure @NinjaRobotPirate: wouldn't mind lending a hand) to make sure the banned LTA doesn't have twenty other accounts operating already (AGF but verify), ask them about those other accounts they didn't mention, and then have a proper AN discussion.
- Personally, I too would support letting them return based on the length of time that has passed since their vandalizing rampage alone, but it's in everyone's best interest to do it the proper way. 78.28.44.127 (talk) 02:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've raised the issue on their talk page. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Personally, I too would support letting them return based on the length of time that has passed since their vandalizing rampage alone, but it's in everyone's best interest to do it the proper way. 78.28.44.127 (talk) 02:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Dummy
edit[Bishzilla is often herself tempted to refer to little 'shonen as "dummy". Sticks the little Just Step Sideways in her pocket. Approvingly:] Good little user! Stay! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 09:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- I don't often find myself agreeing with colossal prehistoric reptilian / dinosaurian monsters, but to say that the thoughs expressed in User:Just Step Sideways/situations are well articulated and as a long-term (c. 2005) WR/WPO lurker, align with my own. Ceoil (talk) 22:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Your close at WP:Articles for deletion/Music composition and composers in Pristina was exactly was what I thought of saying to asilvering, but chose not to for lack of desire to "argue with the refs" as it were. Thanks! Mach61 04:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC) |