Talk:UTA Flight 141
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editAre you sure this was a Union des Transports Aériens plane? As far as I know, the French UTA has been out of business for a very long time, the comfusion could be that both United Transit Airlines and Union share the same three initials, UTA.
The full name of the airline is Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée, or UTAGE. Yes, its a different airline, but the name is also in French. WhisperToMe 03:57, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Bight of Benin
editDid the plane crash into the Bight (i.e. the water) or onto the beach. The article does not make that clear. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- I recently came back to this article for research on a completely unrelated topic, and took the time to read the full (translated) report on the incident. It appears that the main body of the plane ended up in the ocean, but that there was debris on the beach. Griffinofwales (talk) Come and join theSimple English Wikipedia 21:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Stuff to archive
edit- http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2003/3x-o031225/htm/3x-o031225.html
- http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2003/3x-o031225/htm/table.htm
- http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2003/3x-o031225a/htm/3x-o031225a.html
- http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2003/3x-o031225a/pdf/3x-o031225a.pdf
Some archives
- http://www.webcitation.org/5zlrTXGRT (English front page)
- http://www.webcitation.org/5zlrX4BtN (French front page)
Name of the Airline
editThe final report[1] and news articles from the time[2][3][4] both use 'Union des Transports Africains' and the acronym 'UTA'. This also matches what was written on the airline's planes.[5] Where does the name 'Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée', or the acronym 'UTAGE', come from then? The closest I could find were two articles from FlightGlobal that used 'Union des Transports Africains de Guinée' and the acronym 'UTAG'.[6][7] Looking closer, I found that 'Union des Transports Africains de Guinée' is used twice in the final report (pages 44 and 68) and appears to be the airline's full legal name, though the report still uses the acronym 'UTA' throughout. Should this article, and the one on the airline itself, be moved? ThatFlyingSquid (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ThatFlyingSquid: I would prefer UTAG but I would have one name redirect to the other. Unfortunately I don't remember where I got "UTAGE" from, so I wouldn't use that 23:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 15 December 2020
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- UTAGE Flight 141 → UTA Flight 141
- Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée → Union des Transports Africains de Guinée
– As shown in the 'Name of the Airline' section, there is no evidence that the airline was named 'Union des Transports Aériens de Guinée' and referred to as 'UTAGE'. Most sources use 'Union des Transports Africains (de Guinée)' and 'UTA'. In regards to the accident article, some may be concerned about confusion as there was a French airline with the same name. However, keep in mind there are already cases of different airlines with the same name being referred to as the same in accident articles (e.g. National Airlines Flight 27 and National Airlines Flight 102). ThatFlyingSquid (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 23:18, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom; the name seems to be "Union des Transports Africains" and I have no idea where "Aériens" comes from. Similarly, every source on the crash uses "UTA" as the abbreviation for the airline. power~enwiki (π, ν) 06:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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