Talk:Princess Charlotte of Wales (born 2015)

Accidentally messed up her birth date and age

I accidentally messed up her birth date and age can someone fix it GothicGolem29 (talk) 10:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done DrKay (talk) 11:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks GothicGolem29 (talk) 12:08, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2023

Can someone please add in the intro paragraph at the TOP of this page that she was born fourth in the line before the death of Queen Elizabeth II? Please. 2601:40A:8400:5A40:5D06:8B55:7DFB:5226 (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 00:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

I have been adding what number in the line to the throne members were placed when they were born. For instance, Charlotte was 4th in the line when she was born. Since the death of Queen Elizabeth II, she is 3rd in the line. 2601:40A:8400:5A40:C07:B81B:21C0:BD97 (talk) 13:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 10 September 2023

• Princess Charlotte of Wales (born 2015) → Princess Charlotte of Wales
• Princess Charlotte of Wales → Princess Charlotte of Wales (disambiguation)

– Out of the two pages bearing the name Princess Charlotte of Wales - this Charlotte has the higher page count by about 70%, is currently alive, and will remain more relevant. Furthermore Princess Charlotte of Wales (1796–1817) perfectly describes the other Charlotte and users can find this quite clearly (as they already do). This should clear up any confusion for users looking for Princess Charlotte during high profile events such as the coronation, royal weddings etc Jasp7676 (talk) 18:50, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Note: pages with content, such as Princess Charlotte of Wales, are ineligible to be proposed titles in move requests unless they, too, are formally dispositioned. "Princess Charlotte of Wales → Princess Charlotte of Wales (disambiguation)" has been added to this request to meet that requirement. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 01:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. I'm not seeing a massive difference in page views: [1]. DrKay (talk) 21:04, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Very very weak support - While there's not a massive difference and page views (only a difference of ~70,000), I think the WikiNav results here are very interesting. Most navigation from the dab Princess Charlotte of Wales go to the older princess [2], while most from just plain Princess Charlotte go to the younger [3] (arguably a primary topic-like difference, but I definitely don't think this should be moved to just "Princess Charlotte"). To me, that means most readers are searching for this Charlotte and not the daughter of George IV, but people looking for his daughter are more aware that she was "of Wales". Personally, I wouldn't see any harm in doing a trial run with this article at the base name, and then revisit in a few months of the WikiNav results show a concerning percentage of readers navigating to the Hanoverian princess through the hatnote. estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Being alive does not make one the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 01:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose There is no big difference between the two pages in terms of views. Frankly, how readers get to each page does not matter. The raw number of page views indicate that both subjects are of equal interest to readers. It does not matter that one if dead. Keivan.f^Talk 04:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose There is no big difference of course as @Keivan.f said. Also @Jasp7676 it would be better if the present article name is kept just as it is. Anyway in a few years' time when her father ascends to the throne her official name will differ from the other Princess Charlotte and we do have disambiguation pages also. MSincccc (talk) 06:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose This is not a very good argument. TarnishedPath^talk 03:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Cautious oppose Page views are not always decisive. We do have a large number of articles on obscure minor royals who only just pass notability. However the earlier Princess Charlotte is a significant figure, she would have become monarch if she had lived, and her premature death sparked off a significant crisis, see the start of Lytton Strachey's biography of Queen Victoria. The present princess is only 8, things may change as she grows older. There may be a degree of recentism. PatGallacher (talk) 15:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@PatGallacher your argument is not definite. What do you mean by a "Cautious Oppose"? Are you in or out? My meaning in saying this is are you supporting the move which the majority of us see as unnecessary and unwanted or are you with us? MSincccc (talk) 06:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Premature. The first Princess Charlotte of Wales will always be known as Princess Charlotte of Wales and has a very high chance of retaining the long-term significance of that name over the span of history. The new Princess Charlotte has a very high chance of being called something else in a few years' time and people will come to know her by that name. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Good point. When King Charles pops his clogs I think she will become "The Princess Charlotte". She may well be eventually given an additional title, e.g. Countess of Something, or Princess Royal. PatGallacher (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose I think there is a good case to be made for the birth dates to be used both for the subject of this article and George IV's daughter. The name Princess Charlotte of Wales for William and Catherine's daughter may be temporary. It is likely that her title will change when her father becomes king. Векочел (talk) 04:28, 16 September 2023 (UTC)