Tao2911

Here's ma talk, ya'll. Use it, don't abuse it. : )

A special barnstar for you

		The Special Barnstar
		Well done Tao for your indomitable persistence and final success achieving GA status for Adi Da - Epipelagic (talk) 00:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Suspicion of sockpuppetry

Hi Tao, I found the closed case on my return from vacation. I think the reason you gave for drawing me into this cause, i.e. the number of my edits, was a little bit on the weak side. Another time, please look at the content of the edits, instead of simply counting them. No hard feelings nevertheless ! Cheers, Racconish ^Tk 09:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Racconish- sorry about that. As I'm sure you noticed, this case was messy, with at least four editors adding names and IP's to that list, casting a wide net and scooping up a number of socks and/or meats. I didn't think you were a sock per se, but I did look at some of your edits and your page and thought there was at least a possibility of collusion, especially considering how very many ID's were involved, and how the page even as you were editing was patently promotional. Sorry to mis-take you if I did. Cheers!Tao2911 (talk) 13:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes you did ! But I forgive you. Happy editing, Racconish ^Tk 14:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I probably should have spoken up sooner. Racconish is anonymous like most of the rest of us but I'm sufficiently familiar with this editor's contributions over many months to be convinced beyond any doubt that there is no possibility whatsoever that he or she socks or meats for anyone. This is a smart, nice, constructive person who, in my experience, demonstrates both good faith and good acts, helping to build a better encyclopedia. I have never seen Racconish display a personal agenda. Msnicki (talk) 16:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Heartfelt thanks ! Racconish ^Tk 16:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

AfD

We've won and we should be good winners. A weak keep when all the other votes are deletes is still only a single weak keep. Even Jesanj has thrown in the towel. I think we should avoid looking shrill and leave others room to offer minority opinions without dissecting every one of them. Msnicki (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

sure, point taken.Tao2911 (talk) 15:54, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

An example

FYI, I think you take too hard of a line sometimes. At the recent discussion debate for Marisol Deluna you claimed "other editors here have clearly shown [the NYT wedding announcement] to not be a valid source", which completely disregards my "no it's OK because it meets the requirements of WP:SELFPUB" argument that I've made in a couple places. Now others have repeated this argument. It seems sometimes you don't listen. Please listen and consider the reasoned arguments of others. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 16:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

this kind of commentary really serves no purpose. It's basically just an insult ("you don't listen.") the fact is actually I just don't agree. And another editor I feel slam dunked the argument against using the source beyond even my points. If other editors agree with our assessment, I don't think that means I apologize to you. Keep making your points and keep on the topic. Cheers and happy editingTao2911 (talk) 23:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC).

My apologies. I could have worded that better. You said "without a vetted source I don't trust her claims" on the talk page. That seems to argue WP:SELFPUB doesn't matter because you don't like the person. I found that to be an odd response to me pointing our verifiability policy. Best. Jesanj (talk) 23:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The information you have on the SGI is 1000% incorrect which is why I completely changed it.

First of all your spelling of the Soka Gakkai is incorrect. Secondly we have no affliation with George M. Williams anymore. Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo is a chant we do not refer to it as a mantra. And how dare you refer to the Soka Gakkai the largest Buddhism in the world, in over 192 countries and territories as a "minor sect" of Buddhism.

Please stop slanding the law for you will suffer of insessient suffering.

Alisage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.95.183.246 (talk) 17:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. One of those. First of all, there is no such thing as "1000%" and clearly the section is not even 100% incorrect - much of it is quite verifiable, if more objective than you would clearly like it to be. Second, "law" is a terrible translation of the term "Dharma" and virtually no one uses it now; your fundamentalist fear-mongering does not go down well here (proof for anyone interested that Buddhism does indeed have fundamentalists as narrow minded as in any other religion). Lastly, I didn't write any of the section in question, "sland" anyone, nor am I experiencing "of insessient suffering" (I suggest you use spell/grammar check, and not necessarily correct others' spelling). Other editors wrote the section. Editors who used sources. And who know how to edit here. Continue down this road and you will experience "of incessant blocking" for disruptive editing. Or on the other hand, you could simply find some decent sources, and use them to correct any material you feel could be made more accurate - however, from your comments here I have my doubts you'll have much interest in historical accuracy or neutrality.Tao2911 (talk) 19:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

to reiterate my comment on your talk page: "Hello- welcome to Wikipedia. It appears you created a user ID to make edits to only one article, Buddhism in the United States. The edits you made there are not acceptable. They demonstrate a very forceful single 'Point of View" and this violates the principle of remaining neutral here. Here is a helpful page describing the guideline: WP:NPOVT. I would also suggest that you review general editing guidelines: WP:GUIDELINE. Your formatting was likewise not in keeping with WP standards (inline links, no sources for contentious claims, etc.) Remember - this is not the place to push your point of view, for or against Nichiren or any sect derived from his teachings or traditions, or any others."

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Fixed

[1] Silly mistake on my part, the other fellow will have to change his username as it is against policy to copy another's as he has. Darkness Shines (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

yeah I figured something like that - the name is problematic, if for no other reason than its so polemical. But in this particular instance, he simply wasn't the sock offender. Thanks for your work on this!Tao2911 (talk) 00:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

M Roach WP:BLP

• Hi - Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Michael_Roach - there is a report about some disputed content - please join in the discussion there and seek WP:Consensus for the desired addition - thanks - Youreallycan 21:45, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Roach edit warring warning

do not edit war disputed content such as this when it is under discussion at the BLP noticeboard - please take this as a warning - if you continue I will report you and request your editing privileges are removed - Youreallycan 22:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I simply replaced the info, removed the source you found weak, and added the sources you requested. But seeing your page, and that you were once off2riorob, well...Tao2911 (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you go to the BLP noticeboard report and present your case - if your correct within policy I will also support your addition - Youreallycan 22:28, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Michael Roach‎ COI

Hi - Are you are real life opponent of Michael Roach‎? You clearly have a WP:COI - can you make my WP life a bit easier and just accept you are conflicted and state that you will stop editing the biography - WP:BLP - Youreallycan 20:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

My god, you are such a dick, Rob. Always and in every context. Points for consistency, though.Tao2911 (talk) 13:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

POV

"Long POV quote totally inappropriate! This Josh John guy is radically editing dozens of Zen pages, with many problems." So, what's the POV, what's inappropriate, and what are the "many problems"? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 20:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Stuart Lachs

Hi Tao. Do you know the articles by Stuart Lachs? You might like them; he's quite critical of Zen in the USA. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

What does this mean? Yes I know Lachs. While he makes some occasional good points, I think he's a bit of a crank. Myself, I am only critical of bad editing about Zen.Tao2911 (talk) 14:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I see. He also wrote an article on Eido Shimano, which might provide a source for the Wikipedia-article on him. I thought it might be of interest to you. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but this is old news. That page is a hornet's nest. It's ok for now.Tao2911 (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Genpo

Crud - I was adding in details from that clinical trial on "Big Mind" while you were editing/reverting the article, and it looks like I rolled over your revert when I published. Sorry about that! Jikaku (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah! I wondered - normally you are on the side of light! lol. No prob.Tao2911 (talk) 14:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Roach

You have now reached the limit of WP:3RR on Michael Roach. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

What have I reverted? What on earth are you talking about?Tao2911 (talk) 18:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Restoring stuff is reverting. Look, I've advised Abhayakara on 3RR, it's only fair that I advise you as well. I suppose you could keep editing until someone else intervenes and edits the article, but you now have 3 "groups" of edits within 24 hours, and some of the edits in each group are clearly reverts. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

You better make some specific points here. Someone took out "non-traditional", not because its innacurrate, but because the placement was confusing. I moved it, and reworked the line. Other sourced information was removed, due purely to bias - I checked sources, and rewrote to include, incorporating other's edits. Respectfully, you are wrong here. Totally wrong.Tao2911 (talk) 18:09, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Being "right" about one's edits does not mean that one's edits are not reverts. (Everyone always thinks their edits are right.) Look, I'm not trying to give you a hard time and I'm not objecting to any particular edit. My message was intended as a friendly piece of advice about 3RR. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand, and don't want to bust your chops, but I know what revert is, and I maintain that I didn't. When I replaced material, I attempted to meet the bias of Abyhakara half way when possible - for instance, s/he chopped the controversy mention in lead, while leaving and even adding to positive spin. So I just removed all detail, leaving lines saying he's done some stuff, and there is some controversy. That kind of thing, in every instance. This is editing. I have time today. So it goes.Tao2911 (talk) 18:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

own roach

Hi - I removed your addition - diff - for reason/s that there is no independent reporting of the issue - please don't replace without consensus support through talkpage discussion - thanks - Youreallycan 22:41, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

HI - this is not a WP:RS - http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/05/tragedy-at-diamond-mountain-an-update/#idc-cover - that would assert any notability - please remove the disputed content from the biography of a living person and move to discussion - thanks - Youreallycan 23:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

this source's reliability is already established by having been used by other tertiary sources, plural, used in article, including the New York times than not only quotes it, but links to it. Also, Elephant Journal is bona fide. It's a pay journal, online AND print, with staff, writers, etc.Tao2911 (talk) 23:14, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Youreallycan 16:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

you clearly demonstrate a pattern of siding with this biased editor intent on whitewashing, or in this case, out of frustration simply discrediting the page. Why not wade in and show where there is bias, and anything out of line with sources?Tao2911 (talk) 16:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Here is the bias, you just won't see/admit/accept it. - Youreallycan 16:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

what, that I don't like you? I don't see what else you are talking about, since I don't have any opinion about this guy whatsoever, only that 10 news stories should be accurately represented.Tao2911 (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)