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DYK for Ernst Märzendorfer

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  On October 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ernst Märzendorfer, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

May I steal this?

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From the discussion on fish & chips, you wrote:

(cf. a "roast" is anything that's roasted; a "bake" is anything that's baked; a "slice" is anything that's sliced; "eats" are anything that's eaten; "drinks" are anything that's drunk; I almost wonder why a salad isn't referred to as a "rip, cut, squeeze and toss".)

Can I steal that? I promise I have a good use for it! --DaHorsesMouth (talk) 22:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

You're more than welcome. Leave some for me, would you, I'm starving.  :) -- JackofOz (talk) 23:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Care to explain? on Ref Desk

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Jack, I mean this in the nicest way: Please don't encourage a response out of BB on the Ref Page itself. I don't know what the answer is, but on the page it turns to drama. On the Ref Talk page it turns to even more drama. Unless someone puts a stop to his peanut gallery comments, the only thing I see to do is "Ignore". I say this because "Revert" seems to be another source of drama. I truly believe that BB is taunting other users (those that would like a professionally run desk). I also think he purposefully comments in ambiguous ways, so that any possible flare up is explained by him as an "innocent question" or other such nonsense. BB is capable of following the guidelines for answering questions. He recently linked to exactly what was requested. It is my belief that he chooses not to. Until he is kicked off of the desk, he will play his game. 68.244.118.70 (talk) 13:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I take all that in good part. It's just that some remarks can't be left unchallenged, as silence denotes consent. I was the (not logged in) editor who made the original point that the OP's question had nothing to do with entertainment. I guess that's irrelevant; or maybe I'm just a little sensitive to questions about tolerance/intolerance of homosexuality being regarded as something of a joke to some people. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 19:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Feel free to challenge any comment that I make. Unlike the above user, whose very first entry was to go straight to you (he's part of a harassment-only IP farm in New Jersey), I don't hide behind an IP address. If you've got a problem with anything I do, you're welcome to talk to me about it. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 22:21, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Well, I did challenge you, but your silence was deafening. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:31, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
About what? Point me to what you're talking about, and I'll try to answer. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 22:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
[1]. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Well, that was several days ago, but let's see... An IP address asked what the Saudi people's attitude toward gays might be. I pointed out that it would be worthwhile to see what Islam has to say about it. (I could pretty well assume that Muslims in general would be anti-homosexual, but that someone could look into what Islam actually has to say about it.) Then another IP piped in with the snippy-sounding comment, "This isn't really an entertainment-related question, is it." So I gave the second IP a snippy-sounding comment right back. The original poster presumably had a reason to post it in that particular ref desk. I'm constantly being lectured about reading things in to what the OP said. That same lecture also applies to IP's making snippy comments. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 23:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
"Another IP" was me, not logged in at the time (as the above reveals). But regardless of who it was, I can't for the life of me see how "This isn't really an entertainment-related question, is it" was "snippy". Where's the relevance to entertainment of any culture's attitude to homosexuality? It was a serious comment, challenging the posting of the OP's question on the Entertainment ref desk (it would have been a fine question to ask at Humanities). It was indented at the same level as your initial response, so it was clear it was not aimed at you. But my "Care to explain?" was definitely aimed at you, because you appeared to be justifying the asking of homosexuality-related questions under the banner of "entertainment". -- JackofOz (talk) 00:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
And it looked snippy to me, as snippy as you all claimed my "Who says?" question was. To me, it looks like, "How dare you post this question here? What do you think you're doing?" Maybe if you had asked a more soft-pedal question, the way I was told I should? For example, you could have asked, "Is there a particular reason you posted this question in 'Entertainment'?" Maybe the OP had a reason, or maybe he just posted in the first page he saw and wasn't really paying attention. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 02:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
One other thing, which is partly what prompted my response. It occurred to me that he might have been asking about something like "drag shows", which would certainly fall into "entertainment". That ain't my cup o' tea, but it might be someone else's, including even some in Saudi Arabia. Hard telling, if the OP didn't follow up. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 02:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Point taken about the misinterpretation of the attitude behind my post. It wasn't at all what you say, but I see that it could have been read that way. However, perceived snippiness or any other form of inappropriate post, on the part of one editor, whether the perception is accurate or not, does not license any other editor to respond in kind. Otherwise we'd degenerate into the sort of slanging matches that young children get into.
Drag shows? Not my cup of tea either, I freely admit. I know you didn't mention drag shows in your reply, but to even wonder if that's what the OP was really wanting to know about suggests a stereotyping of what gay people are about. It was a very general question about the Saudi people's attitude to gay people, and there was nothing to suggest the OP was wanting to know specifically about drag shows. Maybe you could have asked them about this, and that would have kept it relevant to the Entertainment desk, at least until such time as they replied, with "Yes, that's what I meant", or "No, what I'm asking about is ...". But because there was no mention of it (until now), there was nothing in the conversation up to the point when I arrived, to suggest any possible connection to entertainment. And I'm not one who sees the words "gay" or "homosexual" and immediately thinks "drag shows, flamboyant camp queens, mincing lisping limp-wristed queers, and rampant and unending sexual activity" (I'm not saying you do, either). Hence my post.
Let's draw this to a close now. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Looks like it behooves us both to be clearer in our communications. :) →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 03:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Moonee Ponds

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Chuckle. Good question. I had similar thoughts, but being the pedant that I am, I wondered if fictional females ranked higher than living males, then decided that was a "debate" I didn't want to become involved in! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

note

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Your question about anagrams indirectly led to exposing the latest incarnation of this guy: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pioneercourthouse I think that's called "serendipity". :) →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 17:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oh, just to clarify, that's the idiot I was talking about at the ref desk talk page. Yes, he's enough of a computer geek to figure out how to IP-hop. But he is... otherwise... an idiot. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots← 22:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Bill Dovey

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Have you considered nominating Bill Dovey for DYK here? I've looked it over, and it definitely meets the size requirements. If you want me to nominate for you, just give me a holler. in case you're curious, I found the page listed at User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 02:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

On the GG

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I know you know more about this formal stuff than I do, so... An editor at Talk:Peter Hollingworth claimed he "resigned in disgrace - in fact, to be precise, his commission was revoked by the Queen personally". I replied, "the Queen revoking his commission is no more than a formality - she can opt to accept his resignation or refuse it, and she chose to accept it and perform her contingent constitutional duty upon accepting it [...] it merely reflects the fact his term did not expire normally". Have I expressed that correctly or am I way off?

The Age's story at the time said: "Dr Hollingworth tendered his resignation on Sunday and his tenure ended at midnight last night [Wednesday night]. The Queen told the Prime Minister, John Howard, yesterday that she had accepted the resignation." [2] The ABC the previous day said: "At midnight tonight, Dr Peter Hollingworth's resignation becomes official, his commission formally revoked by the Queen." [3] Orderinchaos 11:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

"in fact, to be precise, his commission was revoked by the Queen personally" - that's somewhat hyperbolic, if not inaccurate. She appoints GGs and, where necessary, revokes their commissions and accepts their resignations. She's the only one who can do the latter things. I doubt she has any real power to refuse a resignation. A GG who did not want to serve would be worse than useless if forced to stay on, but I've never heard of a vice-regal resignation being refused. -- JackofOz (talk) 09:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Discussions which you have started at the Language Reference Desk

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After you commented, at 10:38, 16 October 2009, in a discussion now archived at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2009 October 16#Perfect anagrams of notable people's names, that you "do a lot of wondering", I became curious and searched the Language Reference Desk Archives for all discussions which you initiated. I began by searching for "User:JackofOz" and later, when my searching had been interrupted, I continued by searching for "JackofOz", and I found 717 results. I searched all those pages for discussions which you initiated. (Generally, the search results were listed according to a descending number of occurrences of the search term.) Many of those pages were repeated, so I avoided searching again on pages to which the links were colored as already visited. Listed below are discussions which you initiated, in the order in which they appeared in the search results. I suggest that you put these links on a new subpage. You might want to arrange them chronologically, as I have done with discussions which I initiated, as well as with many of the ones in which I gave answers, now listed at User:Wavelength/About languages/Wikipedia reference desk. You might wish to tag them; I have not put tags on my page (yet).

-- Wavelength (talk) 03:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Wow! Such a service deserves acknowledgment, and thanks. We are indeed on the same "wavelength", because more than once I've thought of creating exactly this list, but never got around to it. There are probably just as many again on Miscellaneous, Humanities and Entertainment. I've also asked a few questions at Science and Mathematics. Thanks again. -- JackofOz (talk) 12:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
If you do put these 77 links on a new subpage, please provide me with a link to that subpage. -- Wavelength (talk) 17:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Spivakovsky's Sibelius

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Dear Jack,
You talkative old thing, you! Congratulations on your advanced usefulness (re the above). Recalling our little laugh a few months ago about Spivakovsky - having just acquired his Sibelius concerto (LSO/Tauno Hannikainen), I must say that this is definitely something different from Neveu, Heifetz or Wha-Chung, - especially in the bowing - is it mannered, or is it really more accurate to the score? Not sure. Well worth the hearing, anyway. Glad you seem to flourish, all the best Eebahgum (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the recording. I've never heard it. But let me tell you that I have a professional client (I help people find employment) whose father was a student of Spivakovsky in Moscow. They turn up in the oddest places, even Down Under.  :) -- JackofOz (talk) 19:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Melos Ensemble

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Thank you for careful editing of Melos Ensemble! The odd phrase "found it congenial" was kept as in the source (should be marked as such?), and one link per composer is sufficient, or not? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Found it congenial - hmm. If that's what the source wrote, that would almost be a reason not to use it. Our articles may all be based on external sources, but we're meant to be not just copy/pasting their particular forms of expression. Re links: the approach I've always taken is (maximum of) one link per subject per section. In a longish article, the same composer may well have more than one link. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thanks again. I was just explaining "congenial" which seemed to carry the feeling of a distant time, not even trying to use it further. - So we keep honouring Beethoven, Schubert, Ireland - and the harp? With a hug --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

*Hug*

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Because sometimes you're just too reasonable to be left hugless when sniped at. 80.41.80.71 (talk) 02:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I don't know who you are, but hugging strangers has never been a problem with me. Hugs have their best effect when done mutually, so consider yourself hugged right back.  :) -- JackofOz (talk) 07:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ref Desk Talk

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Thank you for your efforts on improving the Ref Desk. 68.244.37.17 (talk) 00:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Another Piet Hein Grook

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I'm relying on memory here, so the original may not be exactly as written:

To make your name in learning
When other roads are barred
Take something very easy
And make it very hard.

I was a teacher when I first came across this. I have never "made my name in learning". Bielle (talk) 02:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Aha! Another grookophile. I'm very new to them, I must admit, but count me in. I need no help in obeying Hein's "err and err and err again".  :) -- JackofOz (talk) 02:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
I discovered him him back in the middle 70s. I own (and can put my hand on) Grooks 3 and 4; I may once have had 1 and 2, but cannot locate them. Sometimes he reminds me of Ogden Nash. In the midst of long lines for vaccinations and scare journalism about swine flu, I am heartened by:
Don't be scared by every panic-scare appearing;
don't believe in every transient reprieve;
But believe it will be better than you're fearing
when you fear it will be worse than you believe.
Bielle (talk) 03:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Brilliant. -- JackofOz (talk) 03:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Reference Desk archiving interval

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There's a discussion running on the RD talk page about decreasing the archiving and transclusion thresholds to reduce the page size, perhaps to as few as four days. I don't care one way or the other, but I'd like to make sure any consensus includes input from some long-time regulars, so I'm dropping this note on the talk pages of a few that pop to mind. (I hope no one feels this is improper canvassing.) —Steve Summit (talk) 01:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Britisher/Briton

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I didn't mean to get at you for using Britisher, I was just curious as to why you preferred it. I've only heard Briton before, and wasn't sure if it had some other connotation down where you are. 86.142.224.71 (talk) 03:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Not at all. I don't usually use this term, nor do my compatriots. I was just in a teutonico-capricious mood, I guess. Cheers -- JackofOz (talk) 04:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Anzac Day

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A few days' absence from WP meant I initially missed your reply. Just wanted to acknowledge it, and thank you for correcting my long standing assumption that Australians wore poppies on Anzac Day too. Looks like we're on our own in overlooking Remembrance/Armistice Day. Appropriately enough, it's the 11th here. Not a poppy to be seen. Gwinva (talk) 07:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cheers, Gwinva. Fascinating how customs vary, isn't it. 11 November has long resonated in the Australian psyche: Ned Kelly was executed on that day; WWI (which included the Gallipoli campaign) ended on that day; and the political events of 1975 culminated on that day. The poppy was the order of the day on 11 November from 1918 onwards. Anzac Day started slightly later, and it has its own culture, such as the "traditional" playing of two-up (of which I have never played a game or even seen one played). The poppy was always accepted if someone wanted to wear one on Anzac Day, but it just hasn't been the general custom, mainly because they simply aren't sold except around Remembrance Day, so they'd have to use one they got the previous November. Wreaths are different: poppies have long featured in wreaths on both Remembrance Day and Anzac Day. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Interesting! The first NZ Anzac Day commemoration was in 1916! Official public holiday from 1921 (and still is: it's has the strictest retail/work restrictions of all). Are you sure Aust. had poppies from 1918? Most sources say they were first adopted (by Americans) in 1921. Found an interesting note about the choice of Anzac day for poppies here: the boat was too late for November 11th, so they saved them for Anzac Day. [4] Gwinva (talk) 08:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Polite Notice - Possible solution to Ondine merging

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I am creating this notice to invite all interested parties to vote on the proposal to merge Undine (ballet) and Ondine (Ashton) to a new article at Ondine (ballet). You can read the discussion and add your vote to the poll at:

Look forward to seeing you there to help resolve this situation, thanks! Crazy-dancing (talk) 11:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

DYK nomination of Summer's Last Will and Testament (Lambert)

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  Hello! Your submission of Summer's Last Will and Testament (Lambert) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! [Belinrahs|talktome⁄ ididit] 19:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Summer's Last Will and Testament (Lambert)

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  On November 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Summer's Last Will and Testament (Lambert), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 11:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Death of Frank Little

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Gday JackofOz,

I happened to be throwing out some old copies of The Age recently. I always check the obituaries page for anything I might have missed, and noticed the same discrepency you asked about here. Do you think the obituary which I've now added as a reference settles the matter? Ottre 16:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Ottre. I guess these cases are never truly "settled" while we have conflicting sources, but the version we have at the moment, which favours one date while acknowledging the possibility of the other, is the best way to go. It may have to wait for an authorised biography, or access to his death certificate, before we ever really know exactly when he died. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 19:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Busoni Piano Concerto

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I can't believe Busoni's name has been in the middle like that since the article was created. Even with all the editing that's been done on it, no one ever seems to have noticed it. (I know I never did, and I made changes to that very sentence!) Glad you caught it! --Robert.Allen (talk) 08:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oh, don't worry, Robert. I've read that intro a hundred times without noticing anything odd before. Around here, we come to expect things to be written not quite as we would have done, and that's OK, by and large, but every once in a while my editor's blue pen comes out and goes to town. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hugh Desmond

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Thanks for the return of our friend Hugh. Have sent email. Gwinva (talk) 21:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Maffradites

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When subjects of the Queen, are you referred to as "Her Maffradites"? Daddylight (talk) 23:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Kalkbrenner Page

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Thanks for the tidy up, not sure why you removed the bolding on the Opus numbers though. I was following the way they were shown on the page for Franz Danzi. Graham1973 (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Graham. The question is not "Why did I remove the bolding of Kalkbrenner's opus numbers?". The question is "Why did whoever bold them on Danzi's page, thus creating an unfortunate precedent?". It's non-standard format to do this, and I can see no rationale for it, so I've now edited Danzi's page accordingly. Thanks for alerting me to this problem. Best -- JackofOz (talk) 19:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Sir in member lists

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I can't remember where I read the guideline that says not to, but this should satisfy. Timeshift (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for that. Not sure about this, but I'll think over it before saying any more. -- JackofOz (talk) 13:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
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Here is an archive search box for your talk page. You can modify it and place it according to your preferences.


-- Wavelength (talk) 20:04, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Wavelength. -- JackofOz (talk) 13:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)Reply


Callas Article

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Thank you for your work on the Callas article. I most definitely agree with your deletion of a lot of unnecessary linking. Shahrdad (talk) 03:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

All part of the service. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Signs and Portents

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I notice you have upgraded your signature. Are you considering running for office? Bielle (talk) 03:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

No, and again, no. It's just a token of my continuing quest to discover who the hell I really am. My life has always proceeded in cycles of 7 years, and having recently entered my 7th year of Wiki-life, I figured I've been settling for the well-known version, the version I was never entirely happy with, for far too long, and it was now time to start to better align who I am with who I say I am. Oh, I know there's great comfort in familiarity, but it's not my role to be making others comfortable around me. In fact, I see it as part of my grand purpose to disturb the established order in some significant way - but not necessarily negatively. It mirrors a thought process about myself and my real name that's been going on out here in the real world for some years now, and will shortly come to its natural and inevitable conclusion. -- Jack of Oz (... speak!) 07:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
So, yes, it does turn out to be a sign/portent of something fairly important (and how perspicacious of you to notice). Just not anything so important as running for office. My usual approach is to run from office.  :) -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 10:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
And so, going bold-faced (if not bald-faced) into the world, in clearly separated segments, is "better aligned with who I say I am"? Interesting, if not entirely clear to this easily confused reader. Bielle (talk) 19:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Interesting that you call it "interesting".  :) But confusion, ah, glorious confusion! I told you I was about upsetting the established order, and I can see my plan has started to have its effect already. **(sniggers wickedly) **. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 21:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Talkback

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George Frideric Handel

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From about age 12 to age 18, I sang Handel pieces. Since then, I have been listening to them for an additional 40 years or more, including attending at concerts where a Handel piece was the feature of the performance at least once a year. In all that time, with all that exposure (and keeping in mind that I was an editor and proofreader for a publishing house for nearly 10 of those years), and all those sheets of music and concert programmes, I never noticed that his middle name is spelled not "ie" but just "i" in English. Until tonight, that is. Sometimes I wonder where my mind has been all those years. Bielle (talk) 06:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ah, Bielle, you must be showing your age (not that there's anything wriong with that). Apparently he did spell his name "George Frideric Handel" after he became British, but that never stopped writers from coming up with every possible permutation of Georg/George + Frederick/Friedrich/Frideric/et al + Handel/Haendel/Händel. It seems to be only in the relatively recent past that consensus on how to spell his name has been reached. But you'll still continue to see older versions out there. There are similar problems with Sergei Rachmaninoff - that's the spelling the man himself used in the West, so you'd think that would be the end of the matter. But noooo. And don't get me started on Peter/Pyotr/Petr + Ilyich/Ilich/Ilitch/Ilyitch/Iljic + Tchaikovsky/Chaikovsky/Chaykovsky/Tschaikowsky/Tchaikowsky/Chaykowsky/et al. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 18:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

"Everingham Rotating House - Home"

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You can see "Everingham Rotating House - Home" at http://www.everinghamrotatinghouse.com.au/. The Everingham Rotating House is situated approximately 40 kilometres from Wingham, New South Wales. At this time, Wikipedia does not have an article about the Everingham Rotating House.
-- Wavelength (talk) 18:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks ... I guess. I'm wondering why you shared this with me. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 18:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
I shared it with you because you live in Australia and might be able and willing to visit it, and because you might be interested in writing an article about it. -- Wavelength (talk) 19:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Oh, OK. Sorry for my obtuseness, Wavelength. It's not the sort of thing that I'd be likely to write an article about - but you never know. Thanks for the info anyway. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Lists of operas by . . .

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Hi. I see you've changed the name of the Rossini list. I don't know whether you realize this but there are a series of these pages, see Category:Lists of operas by composer. The first one was List of operas by Mozart and there was a discussion about what to call it. The consensus was for Mozart without his first names (see here, so all the other titles have followed that decision. That original consensus can of course change — after proper discussion at the Opera Project — but then all the titles would have to change. Perhaps you know all this already? --Kleinzach 08:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Well, no, I didn't know any of this already. I'm surprised you think I would ever act contrary to an established consensus I was aware of. I just saw a disconnect between "List of works by Gioachino Rossini" and "List of operas by Rossini", and boldy fixed it. Please feel free to put it back the way it was. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 08:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
OK. Now fixed - but please note that these lists are almost always part of a series. They are not named at random. Thanks. --Kleinzach 11:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you'd already made that point, Kleinzach; no need to keep on making it. However, perusing the category, I see some anomalies:
Well, you understand the principle involved. Arguably Michael Haydn is more important than Siegfried Wagner. more performed anyway. There are four Hillers (see Grove for details). --Kleinzach 02:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Not sure I got my point across. Why is it necessary to spell out Joseph Haydn (@ List of operas by Joseph Haydn), when it isn't necessary to spell out Richard Wagner or Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or Gioachino Rossini? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 07:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Chopin

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Something more important, I see you changed a Chopin article. I'm wondering if you have time to check the others to see if they conform to your system? I've done a Chopin 'book', see Wikipedia:Books/Frédéric Chopin, which list the articles, hopefully including all the compositions. Thanks. --Kleinzach 02:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hmm. "Changed a Chopin article" - I've made a number of changes to Chopin-related articles of recent days. Can you be clearer about your question? Not sure what "my system" is a reference to. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 07:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Your corrections to Josef Hofmann wiki page

I noticed that in the changes you made to the "Technique and Style" section, you have let a sentence on Rachmaninoff form a paragraph by itself (see the penultimate sentence in that section). Please merge it with the previous paragraph since, on its own, it has a "peacock value" and, also, unnecessarily underscores the significance of Rachmaninoff --- since Godowsky, Lhevinne, Busoni etc. had formidable techniques as well, someone may ask "Why refer to Rach alone on Hofmann? What were the views of these other legends on Hofmann's techniques?".

Also, Gregor Benko advanced me to change "Jozef" to "Josef" all through since, according to him, Hofmann always wrote his name as "Josef".

Thanks very much for your edits, of course!

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