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Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2024 (UTC)I have a somewhat abandoned draft article you can help me with
I invite you and anyone else who wants to to edit Draft:list of particularly dangerous situation watches. It seems as if that article has sorta been forgotten about. We’ve only gotten down to 2020 (for completely listed and in some cases not even that far) and if I recall, the entries only go back to 2018. There’s still a lot more in IEM archives. Your help at expanding the list to mainspace ready format would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. (Ps I have sent this message or a variant thereof to a bunch of other people trying to get folk’s attention drawn to that draft) West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @GeorgeMemulous, don’t reply on this talk page. Please do it on the article talk page if you’re going to. Thank you. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 21:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Want to help out with a new list?
So all of the edit wars over the various mobile radar measurements got me thinking…Wouldn’t it be a cool idea to have an actual list of tornadoes measured by mobile radars? So, I started Draft:List of tornadoes observed by mobile radars. I want to make it practically WP:GA-equivalent material before moving it into mainspace (meaning probably a couple of weeks-worth of work and research). Nonetheless, I wanted to let you know about it and also to say feel free to help out if you want to. There are so many tornadic-radar publications out there…it will just take some time to dig them all up. Lol. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes Improvement Time!
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PD-NWS Violations Update #1
I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an update to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.
For starters, no "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred. All that means is the template is not formally deprecated and is still in use. However, Rlandmann, an administrator on English Wikipedia, has begun an undertaking of reviewing and assessing all images (~1,400) that use the PD-NWS copyright template.
What we know:
- Following email communications, the National Weather Service of Sioux Falls has removed their disclaimer, which has been used for the PD-NWS template for decades. This means, as far as the National Weather Service is concerned, the following statement is no longer valid:
By submitting images, you understand that your image is being released into the public domain. This means that your photo or video may be downloaded, copied, and used by others.
Currently, the PD-NWS template links to an archived version of the disclaimer. However, the live version of the disclaimer no longer contains that phrase. - See this deletion discussion for this point's information. NWS Paducah (1) failed to give attribution to a photographer of a tornado photograph, (2) placed the photo into the public domain without the photographer explicitly giving them permission to do so (i.e. the photo is not actually in the public domain), (3) and told users to acknowledge NWS as the source for information on the webpage. Oh, to note, this photographer is a magistrate (i.e. a judge). So, the idea of automatically trusting images without clear attribution on weather.gov are free-to-use is in question.
- The Wikimedia Commons has a process known as precautionary principle, where if their is significant doubt that an image is free-to-use, it will be deleted. Note, one PD-NWS file has been deleted under the precautionary principle. The closing administrator remarks for the deletion discussion were: "
Per the precautionary principle, there is "significant doubt" about the public domain status of this file (4x keep + nominator, 5x delete), so I will delete it.
" - Several photographs/images using the PD-NWS are currently mid-deletion discussion, all for various reasonings.
- As of this message, 250 PD-NWS images have been checked out of the ~1,400.
- The photograph of the 1974 Xenia tornado (File:Xenia tornado.jpg) was found to not be in the public domain. It is still free-to-use, but under a CC 2.0 license, which requires attribution. From April 2009 to August 2024, Wikipedia/Wikimedia was incorrectly (and by definition, illegally) using the photograph, as it was marked incorrectly as a public domain photograph.
Solutions:
As stated earlier, there is no "formal" rulings, so no "formal" changes have been made. However, there is a general consensus between editors on things which are safe to do:
- Images made directly by NWS employees can be uploaded and used under the new PD-USGov-NWS-employee template (Usage: {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}} ). This is what a large number of PD-NWS templated images are being switched to.
- Images from the NOAA Damage Assessment Toolkit (DAT) can be uploaded and used under the PD-DAT template (Usage: {{PD-DAT}} ). A large number of images are also being switched to this template.
For now, you are still welcome to upload images under the PD-NWS template. However, if possible it is recommended using the two templates above. I will send out another update when new information is found or new "rulings" have been made. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Since there was a unanimous non-sock consensus. I think you can still complete the merge (July 15, 2024 Chicagoland tornado outbreak, July 2024 Midwest derecho, and Severe weather sequence of July 13–16, 2024) mentioned in the investigation. I’ll ping a couple experienced users though just to make sure; cause I don’t want to steer you in the wrong direction. @Hurricanehink @WeatherWriter @TornadoLGS @Sir MemeGod @Ks0stm 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 18:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is; if the merge gets undone. 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 18:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which it seems to have been undone. 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 18:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @GeorgeMemulous; I’m going to tell you this because I was warned on this once (on a different SPI); you just commented on a closed discussion. 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 17:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Understood.
- As for the merger, if nobody gets to it first, more or less the only things to merge are impacts at O'Hare and a summary for the Channahon-Matteson tornado, alongside redirecting the other pages. Once I get time to rewrite those into the 13-16 article, I'll get them all merged. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 17:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Clyde The merge is now complete. It seems socks can't keep snow from melting after all. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would recommend creating a WP:DOPP account if I were you. Because Andrew5 has a history of impersonating people. Examples include User:WėatherWritor impersonating @WeatherWriter; User:United States Stan impersonating @United States Man; and multiple accounts on Meta named CheeseEric (impersonating @ChessEric) Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 17:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I got this username from Memeulous on YouTube, and User:GeorgeMemeulous already exists but is inactive. Any impersonation will likely be very obvious and probably could be caught easily (then again, I'm not versed in targeted harassment by sock impersonators).
- I might consider making one at some point, though. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 17:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Speak of the devil, that happened today! I'd bet anything Andrew5 is watching this talk page like a sock on a anti-socking page...
- Special:Diff/1242976673 is magical! Andrew5's sock, User:Hurricane Clude, was outed by none other than Sinebot, on the same page he vowed his "ultimate sockpippetry" on. Only a matter of time before I get it too.
- Honestly, I'm not sure if doppelgangering here is the move. In function, since Sinebot snitches on talk pages, and disruptive editing is disruptive editing, impersonated accounts are more like any other named account and will get banned just as fast, if not faster. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would recommend creating a WP:DOPP account if I were you. Because Andrew5 has a history of impersonating people. Examples include User:WėatherWritor impersonating @WeatherWriter; User:United States Stan impersonating @United States Man; and multiple accounts on Meta named CheeseEric (impersonating @ChessEric) Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 17:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @GeorgeMemulous; I’m going to tell you this because I was warned on this once (on a different SPI); you just commented on a closed discussion. 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 17:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which it seems to have been undone. 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 18:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)