Talk:Mohammed Deif

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Survived 5 other attacks?

If this is true and not hearsay, a reference should be included.

Is the goal to misinform?

This article clearly misinforms. The man is dead and there is no reason to think otherwise. All the evidence exists, you just deny it.

Articles like this are simply destroying the credibility of wikipedia. 2A0D:6FC0:B24:E300:9EA7:3FC:26EE:A31F (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Arabic source?

Why is source 6 allowed if it is in Arabic?

Sources should be in the langauge of the page. 2A0D:6FC0:B24:E300:9EA7:3FC:26EE:A31F (talk) 21:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nothing at Wikipedia mandates this; a source can be written in any language. Nythar (💬-🍀) 03:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you want to read it, Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge both have built-in translation for Arabic, it sometimes makes errors, but it's readable and gives you most of the story. FourPi (talk) 16:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Osama hamdan “confirmed”

He didn’t confirm anything, he is lying saying Deif is alive even though he is dead. Hamas has died Marwan issa’s death as well even though he is dead and America and Israel have confirmed it so change this Kwabat5 (talk) 00:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Denied, not died Marwan issa's death sorry
68.174.61.132 (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mohammed deif’s death is disputed, and it’s best we wait until the war ends and see if it is true. As for Marwan Issa, they have not denied his assassination so there is no dispute or challenge to the Israeli claim The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 10:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hamas have confirmed only about a dozens deaths of militants and leaders in the whole war, In Gaza it's just Haniyeh's sons and police? Deif is the only one they only they have directly claimed is alive? FourPi (talk) 01:36, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
But I do think we should say clearly that it is disputed, in the info box and maybe the last line of the intro (too much to explain in the first line), and that there was an attempt last month, including a short realistic description of the event. Not a long one, we can link the page, and say "see below", but date + 90 killed + IDF and Hamas disagree about whether one of killed was Deif. Without that, people do trust wiki less, and also end up believing it was genuinely a "targeted strike" with "surgical" precision, as the IDF claim. FourPi (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why is Hamas’ claims of him being alive given more weight than the IDF’s assertions he’s dead?

Hamas is a terrorist group that has nothing to gain by confirming his death. It will only hurt their morale. On the other hand, the IDF’s intelligence confirming Deif was eliminated in the strike seems pretty well supported. For what it’s worth, Hamas hasn’t confirmed Marwan Issa’s death either but that’s still confirmed according to Wikipedia. So why the double standard for Deif? 2401:D002:8705:D400:E947:7A4C:5443:534D (talk) 11:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply