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An interesting discussion - and quite right to have it here and not have editing wars! Just referring to the paragraph immediately above, it is important to remember these limitations. I think it was rail loading limitations that did limit the size of turret rings for instance, and British designers was asked to design tanks that could travel by rail. It's also interesting to see how British tank design was affected by the lack of a purpose built large scale tank industry. Designs were influenced by the ability of British industry to produce them with existing or modified plant. Eg how plate armour was bolted or welded onto a frame on the Cromwell and Churchill, and how a stepped rather than a sloped glacis on the hull was easier to produce. So indeed, not the finest tank of its era, but they were put into the field maintained, armed, fuelled,and with trained crews as part of a bigger all-arms team. They did their job, I'd say. Thanks for a good article and some good insights guys. Salute! [[User:Mungo Shuntbox|Mungo Shuntbox]] ([[User talk:Mungo Shuntbox|talk]]) 11:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
The way I see it is that the Cromwell, Sherman, T34 and Pz4 were all equally awful, it was only because of the heavier German tanks like the Tiger and the Panther (which only made up a minority of axis armour) that give the Cromwell a bad name. When the Cromwell entered service it was going against the biggest and best German armour, so it was compared with it, whereas the Sherman and T34 were compared with the Pz4. The Cromwell wasn't a bad tank, its just that German over-engineering was far superior (apart from the all important production figures that is!). ([[Special:Contributions/213.167.69.4|213.167.69.4]] ([[User talk:213.167.69.4|talk]]) 10:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC))
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