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:* I confess I added it to the template without knowing, so to speak, its pedigree, so I don't mind whether or not it's used here. I think, though, the template feels underpowered without an image, so I found [[:File:Civil rights.JPG]] as an alternative. [[User:CsDix|CsDix]] ([[User talk:CsDix|talk]]) 11:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
::If users here do not lke it, i dont have any particular interest in using it here. Just you should know that this logo was elected by masssive international agreement, that is by far bigger than wikipedia entire active body. You will never convince me that image chosen by one or two persons here on talk is better then this logo, created for very this purpose. This logo is THE ONLY logo in usage that was some official meaning and confirmation in background, while all others have nothing. All best. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 02:43, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
:::The objection, I think, is not that any group of Wikipedians are any more authoritative than the contest that picked that human rights logo, it's that nobody can authoritatively make "the logo" for human rights, and we at wikipedia would be better off picking some image which is merely widely iconic and representative of rights without it claiming to be the ''official logo'' of human rights. By using this logo, we endorse the authority of the contest to pick a logo for an abstract concept; by using almost any other image, we don't endorse any authority to do so, we just put a pretty picture commonly associated with the subject for beautifications purposes.
:::Consider [[Template:Philosophy_sidebar]]. For illustration, it has a triptych of portraits of widely-recognized philosophers from around the world (Socrates, Confucius, Avicienna). Even if it was just a bust of Socrates (which I think is also used somewhere else on WP), that wouldn't be claiming that Socrates is the official figurehead of all philosophy; just that he is an iconic figure in philosophy.
:::Frankly the idea of coming up with a logo not for a specific organization but for an abstract concept is patently absurd. A logo is like a brand. Giving something a logo implies the giver has ownership of that concept. But abstract concepts can't be owned. Human rights, as a concept, cannot have an official logo -- nobody has the authority to do so, and this contest acting like it does is simply farcical. And Wikipedia shouldn't be endorsing such a thing. It would be a farce if we came up with a logo too, but nobody is suggesting that.
:::If I were to suggest an illustration for human rights, I'd probably go for a combination of several different iconic images. The liberty torch that was on WP:HR before was a good one (and contrary to objections is ''not'' inherently American; the figure of Liberty personified bearing a torch is European in origin, for example France had a statue of said figure before the US did, and gave the US theirs). The scales of justice would also make a good representation. For that matter Justice has a personification too, so perhaps stand them side by side, Liberty and Justice, and you've got some pretty iconic rights-related imagery right there. --[[User:Pfhorrest|Pfhorrest]] ([[User talk:Pfhorrest|talk]]) 09:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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