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→‎"Rights claimants... fetuses" contentious: i think we should work on the section headings as well - see my suggestion
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:::::Templates are a good way to make other wikipedia article accessible to users, and as long as the categorisation makes sense to the average person, its fine. There are so many attempts to classify and categorise rights, all of them have their difficulties (see individual v group rights, generations of rights etc). I think we really just ought to find a non-controversial section heading to make all the different articles relating to rights accessible.
:::::See my suggestion on the right, happy to discuss, can’t say I have the definitive answer. Its definitely uncontroversial.--[[User:SasiSasi|SasiSasi]] ([[User talk:SasiSasi|talk]]) 17:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I don't like putting the theoretical distinctions and human rights divisions below all the others; the way you have it organized that's basically as miscellaneous group of rights at the top, while I think miscellanea belong at the bottom. I'm also not happy about destroying the distinction between rights-by-who-has-them and rights-by-what-is-had-by-them. Just because the distinction is hard to capture in phrases short enough for section headings doesn't mean we should throw it out. It's really simple to state in a full sentence: those are all about someone having a right to something. One section groups them by the ''someone'', and another groups them by the ''something''. I think this is a useful categorization to keep, we just need to brainstorm names for them. The first thing that comes to mind is "by right holder" and "by right held", but that raises the same issues that caused "right-holder" to be changed to "right-claimant" before. Maybe just "by who" and "by what"? It's kind of silly but I think given the examples in each section it will make sense in context. Still not an ideal solution though. --[[User:Pfhorrest|Pfhorrest]] ([[User talk:Pfhorrest|talk]]) 22:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)