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:*Poor writing and formatting are not the reasons for nomination. The fact that this is part of Pat's personal crusade to [[Wikipedia:Content_forking|fork]] an article for [[electric bicycle]]s (note edit history at the redirect) separate from [[motorized bicycle]]s (note [[Talk:Motorized bicycle|talk]], [[Talk:Motorized bicycle/Archive|Archive]] and [[Talk:Motorized bicycle/Archive2|Archive 2]]) '''is'''. - [[User:Just zis Guy, you know?|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid">&nbsp;Guy,</span> you know?]] <sup>[[User_talk:Just zis Guy, you know?|[T]]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Just zis Guy, you know?|[C]]]</sub> [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] ''[[User:Just zis Guy, you know?/AfD|AfD?]]'' 18:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
::*Sorry, I didn't mean to say it was. I mentioned it because other people, such as AFAK, claimed the current mess as one of the reasons for deleting. That notwithstanding, I still think this should go to RFC, as we clearly have a dispute between two users, one who claims this article is a fork, and another who claims it isn't. I don't think AFD is the right place to settle these issues. [[User:JoaoRicardo|JoaoRicardo]]<sup>[[User talk:JoaoRicardo|talk]] </sup> 20:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:::*That might be the case if it were an isolated incident, but this is not the first time Pat has forked this topic. - [[User:Just zis Guy, you know?|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid">&nbsp;Guy,</span> you know?]] <sup>[[User_talk:Just zis Guy, you know?|[T]]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Just zis Guy, you know?|[C]]]</sub> [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] ''[[User:Just zis Guy, you know?/AfD|AfD?]]'' 14:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:*I really don't understand how this can be a POV fork when it is a work in progress from a translation... This is typical bad faith on behalf of the nominator because he knows I have built 2 electric bicycles and he assumes I have an agenda. Since when do we punish people for their knowledge and previous wikipedia edits (That of which I was fairly new to experiencing, lacking arguing skills, and having poor wikipedia etiquette.) Next thing you know you'll be saying [[Granny Smith]] smith and [[Gala (apple)]] are POV Forks from [[apple]] article because the primary creator really likes these types of apples. If the issue of delete is not about formatting, {attention}, etc... and solely about a POV fork, I think, this issue should be closed. Again, according to "content forking": "Summary style articles, with sub-articles giving greater detail, are not content forking, while the main article, written in summary style, will give a balanced summary of each of the subtopics." There is obviously a mistake in the nomination of this article for deletion. This, I believe is an error in procedure and may lead to an appeal. As for the gibberish... well... I couldn't possibly comment on that, except for the fact that I am working, slowly but surely at translating this page so inherently there be no POV. (It's a win-win or lose-lose situation.) (I'll be gone for the weekend so if anyone wants to start translating!) Talk to you monday. --[[User:CyclePat|CylePat]] 02:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::*More nonsense. If you want a work-in-progress you can do it in your user space. The right way to add this content is to merge it into the relevant sections in the existing article - your history re [[electric bicycle]] is enough to guarantee that even if this fork is not a bad-faith action on your part, it is always going to look like it. - [[User:Just zis Guy, you know?|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid">&nbsp;Guy,</span> you know?]] <sup>[[User_talk:Just zis Guy, you know?|[T]]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Just zis Guy, you know?|[C]]]</sub> [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] ''[[User:Just zis Guy, you know?/AfD|AfD?]]'' 14:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::*furthermore; just to prove my point. Here is a snip of a conversation on my user page.
::**"Pat, I wish you hadn't done that, I really do. Pedelec is a subclass of electric bicycle is a subclas of motrized bicycle. It's already mentioned in motorized bicycle. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 22:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)