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*'''Oppose''' mention of Nobel Prize per Amakuru as it is editorializing the blurb to choose to add that secondary piece of info, which wasn’t included in Henry Kissinger’s blurb. '''[[User:Bzweebl|<span style="color:#D60047">B</span><span style="color:#F0A000">zw</span><span style="color:#00A300">ee</span><span style="color:#0A47FF">bl</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Bzweebl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bzweebl|contribs]]) 05:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{ec}} '''Restored Nobel''' to the blurb. It's been in the blurb candiates from the beginning, and there is consensus since the post for its inclusion. As mentioned above with Annan and Peres previously, it's not unprecedented. In other fields, I also see some recent examples beyond a simple listing of their occupation.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1155978548][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1218115233] This is not required, and there are merits to avoiding squabbles with a more vanilla blurb. But there's no current rule at [[WP:ITN]] barring it, and the community can apply [[WP:WEIGHT]], where needed, as was done here. This is consistent with the [[WP:YESPOV]] policy: {{tq2|As such, the neutral point of view does not mean the exclusion of certain points of view; rather, it means including all verifiable points of view which have sufficient due weight.}}—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 05:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
*:The community establishes WP:WEIGHT in the article's talk page, not in ITN. The article indicates that Carter is first and foremost notable for being a president and secondarily as a humanitarian, not for being a Nobel laureate. If ITN doesn't directly reflect that's written in the corresponding article, this sets a ridiculous precedent where anything can be written in ITN blurbs so long as there is local consensus for it here (if tomorrow we'll have a blurb that Carter has come back to life while the article's obviously unchanged, and enough people vote for that blurb, would that also be posted?) ITN discussions have significantly less editorial rigor and oversight than an actual article talk page, and shouldn't be the place to make substantive arguments about content, especially ones that very clearly would not, and have not, passed in the article's talk page itself (e.g. in this case that Carter's Nobel prize is anywhere near as notable as his occupation as a president). [[User:Spintheer|spintheer]] ([[User talk:Spintheer|talk]]) 06:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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