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== Request on 11:34:40, 18 October 2024 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Mofembot ==
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Hi there, "S0091," I'm trying to create an article about Dr. Larry Glasser, a retired professor of physics and mathematics. I am not a mathematician (to say the very least), though since your review and rejection of the initial draft, I've gotten more info about him that I believe must qualify him as a "notable" person worthy of a wiki entry; for example, this from an incomplete PDF I received a few days ago (I need the sender to provide the entire PDF with the endnotes):
"Glasser has published over 400 research papers and three books in physics and mathematics with nearly 100 co-authors, including Norman March, Freeman Dyson and Jonathan Borwein. His Erdos number is 2. His eponymous results include Glasser’s Master Theorem, The Glasser Transform, the Glasser function, the Glasser-Lehman Theorem, the Onsager-Glasser Theorem and the Kaplan-Glasser State."
Given the number of hits I found just for "Glasser's Master Theorem" alone, Larry's work seems to be pretty important. I'm not sure how to go about proving something that I'm not really qualified to analyze myself, hence my reliance on the input of his nephew, who is a now-retired math prof.
(I am writing this article as a favor to his daughter, whom I have known for many years; I am acquainted only slightly with Larry himself. After I receive the complete PDF I mentioned above, I will finish the second draft and resubmit it, though having your input first would obviously make sense. Thanks in advance for any and all advice. —Lynn aka Mofembot)
<!-- End of message -->[[User:Mofembot|Mofembot]] ([[User talk:Mofembot|talk]]) 11:34, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Mofembot|Mofembot]] first some "paperwork". Given your relationship with the family, you need to declare your [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. See [[WP:COIDECLARE]] but if you need help, let me know and I will add the declaration to your user page. I will also leave some additional information about rules regarding those with a COI, which also extends to Glasser, his family members and anyone associated with him. In a nutshell, having a COI does not preclude you from working on the draft but once it is an article, those associated with him should not edit it directly but rather make [[WP:edit requests|edit requests]]. I strongly suggest you make the family aware of the rules.
:{{pb}}I agree he very likely meets the notability criteria and we actually have an article about [[Glasser's master theorem]], which I have also linked in the draft. However, we cannot use what his nephew says so that needs to be removed. What is needed are published reliable sources that are accessible to the public (see [[WP:PUBLISHED]]) so anyone in the world at anytime can access the source(s). Therefore, the PDF his nephew provided you is not usable. See [[WP:Your first article|Your first article]] for some additional guidance about writing a Wikipedia article. As it stands now, it is not appropriate for an encyclopedia.
:{{pb}}Like you, I am not a mathematician but that's ok because we have editors who are. I am going to post a note at [[WP:WikiProject Mathematics]] to see if an editor active there is willing to help get the draft up to acceptable standards. I will ping you there. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091#top|talk]]) 15:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Mofembot|Mofembot]], I'll just add to what S0091 already said that I too am pretty confident Glasser meets the standards at [[WP:PROF]]. This is doable - you just need to properly source everything. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 18:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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