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:The news source I attached is the Washington post. Surely that's reliable? But perhaps more importantly it's quoting a US law professor. I have the guys YouTube video on the matter if that helps? Surely expert legal opinion is the highest level of source? [[Special:Contributions/115.189.93.186|115.189.93.186]] ([[User talk:115.189.93.186|talk]]) 00:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
:Surely the New York post and a Yale law Professor are reputable sources? A mainstream newspaper and an Ivy league subject matter expert. https://nypost.com/2024/06/08/us-news/yale-law-professor-says-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-despite-guilty-verdict-heres-why/ or if you want the actual Podcast, so the direct words of a Yale Constitutional law Professor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23t__ysVjU&ab_channel=ProfessorJedRubenfeld [[User:Liger404|Liger404]] ([[User talk:Liger404|talk]]) 08:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
::The NY Post is not a reliable source - see [[WP:NYPOST]] for the reasons why and the multiple discussions surrounding that. One law professor is certainly a reliable source for their own opinion - but that does ''not'' mean that their opinion is to be treated as fact and reported in "wikivoice" (i.e. saying "Trump was convicted" or not). That source would be reliable to report that in the opinion of that professor, Trump is not a convicted felon at this time. But the plurality (if not majority) of reliable sources are reporting he has been convicted. It matters not what the "technical" definition of the word is - it matters how it's used in common English. In common English, the word "convicted" can either mean "final judgment has been passed" ''or'' "a jury has returned a verdict of guilty and there is no sign that it is going to be overturned".{{pb}}That said, I think there's a simple solution here. Why do we not just change "convicted of a felony" to "found guilty of a felony (by a jury)" with the parenthetical not being necessary in my opinion but... -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | [[User:berchanhimez|me]] | [[User talk:berchanhimez|talk to me!]] 08:24, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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