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:But it’s a castle with National Treasures, as clearly documented in Cultural Heritage Online. Why wouldn’t it be listed there? Goten buildings were arguably the most important type of building at Japanese castles, and certainly were more ubiquitous than tenshu. Keep in mind that there aren’t any ‘National Treasure Castles’ per se anyway-there are castles with buildings that are national treasures, and Nijo Castle is one of them. Excluding it is just a product of tourist literature that confuses tenshu (which many Japanese castles never even had) with castles.
:And why couldn’t the castle be listed as both a national treasure residence and castle, seeing as all late Muromachi and Edo period お城 were by definition places of residence? [[User:Mabewa|Mabewa]] ([[User talk:Mabewa#top|talk]]) 22:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
::This has nothing to do with tourist literature. The designating authority ([[MEXT]]) has decided to put it in the residences category and I don't see why we should present it differently. Note that this article is strictly about National Treasures and not about castles in general. Putting Nijo castle (or rather Ninomaru Palace) here would be misleading since it simply is not a castle National Treasure by definition. Similarly you find for instance many shoin in the residences category that are located inside temples but are still not listed in the temple category. For reference we should use the [https://kunishitei.bunka.go.jp/bsys/index official database] in deciding where to put what, IMHO. [[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 11:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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