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:::::::TV series leads pretty much always include a full premiere date already. In an edit like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Wheel_of_Time_(TV_series)&diff=prev&oldid=1239772036 this], the release year added to the first sentence reads as especially redundant because the full premiere date is already noted in the third sentence (albeit the start of a new paragraph). We often see full start and end dates in the first sentence for completed series like ''[[Seinfeld]]'' or ''[[The West Wing]]'', probably because the duration is itself defining, but for ongoing series which lacks an end date this info tends to be included later in the lead.— [[User:TAnthony|TAnthony]]<sup>[[User Talk:TAnthony|Talk]]</sup> 14:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I don't think a single year should be added to the first sentence of the lead in a similar way that [[MOS:FILMLEAD]] allows because it's an apples to oranges situation. Only a handful of series, presently, release all episodes at once on a single day, in a single year. But the vast majority release their episodes over multiple days (sometimes within the same calendar year) and over multiple years (be it network series from September to May, or multiple seasons over multiple years). Most series account for this in some way with a sentence highlighting the release cadence in the lead. I personally prefer it in the third or fourth paragraph of the lead, but others could chose to have it in the first paragraph. It just shouldn't be in the very first sentence or one of the very first elements of that sentence. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 21:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== "Audience Says"? ==
 
[[MOS:TVAUDIENCE]] says "Do not include user ratings submitted to websites such as the Internet Movie Database, Metacritic, or Rotten Tomatoes (including its "Audience Says" feature), as they are vulnerable to vote stacking and demographic skew." I didn't actually find anything called "Audience Says" on Rotten Tomatoes. Is that referring to what Rotten Tomatoes now calls its "Popcornmeter", or is that referring to something else, such as individual comments submitted by members of the public? —⁠ ⁠[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 20:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)