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# the [[Baptist successionism|perpetuity]] view which assumes that the Baptist ''faith and practice'' has existed since the time of Christ, and
# the successionist view, which argues that Baptist ''churches'' actually existed in an unbroken chain since the time of Christ.<ref name="Gourley">Gourley, Bruce. "A Very Brief Introduction to Baptist History, Then and Now." ''The Baptist Observer.'' MAny historical figures prior to the reformation acknowledge the exisitence of Baptists and their seperation from the church.<ref>The First Church, J. T. Mann</ref> Sir Isaac Newton stated "Baptists are the only body of known Christians that never symbolized with Rome"</ref>
Cardinal Hosius (Catholic, 1524), President of the Council of Trent:
“Were it not that the Baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers.”—Hosius, Letters, Apud Opera, p. 112, 113.
===English separatist view===
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