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{{shortcut|WP:ARBIND|WP:ARBIP}}<big>'''Case Opened''' on 21:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)</big> ▼
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▲{{shortcut|WP:ARBIND|WP:ARBPAK|WP:ARBIP}}<big>'''Case Opened''' on 21:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case Closed''' on 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case Amended''' by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&oldid=504800033#Motion_.28India-Pakistan.29 motion] on 18:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case amended by [[Special:Permalink/835271096#Motion 1|motion]]''' on 17:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case amended by [[Special:Permalink/890994939#Amendment_request:_India-Pakistan|motion]]''' on 22:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case amended by [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/2021-22_review#Administrative_provisions|motion]]''' on 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)</big>
Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the [[Wikipedia talk:{{PAGENAME}}|Talk page]], and will be read, in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at [[/Evidence]]. Evidence is more useful than comments.
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==Statement by [[User:Rama's Arrow|Rama's Arrow]]==
I am requesting arbitration over the disruptive conduct of these editors, who have edited almost exclusively to promote a religious and nationalist point of view across a wide range of articles (including biographies) concerning [[India]], [[Pakistan]] and [[Hinduism]]. Repeated disruption has been caused owing to their edit-warring over script transliterations, wikiproject banners, descriptions of nationality and an attempt to rewrite articles on historical and cultural topics to promote their point of view. These editors have also been consistently incivil to others and have also personally attacked editors on the lines of national origin, race and religion. They have routinely accused other involved editors of racial, national, political and religious bias. All of these editors have attempted to evade blocks and promote their point of view via sockpuppetry through anonymous IP addresses and multiple sockpuppet accounts. Their continued disruptive activities have caused wide-ranging edit wars between groups of editors, often threatening to degenerate into an open edit-war between national and religious groups. These editors have continuously violated [[WP:POINT]], [[WP:DE]], [[WP:3RR]], [[WP:EW]], [[WP:CIVIL]], [[WP:NPA]], [[WP:SOAP]], [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:OR]], [[WP:NEO]] and [[WP:SOCK]]. Only [[user:Unre4L|Unre4L]] has attempted proper [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]], which largely stalled as the editors in question maintained their disruptive and confrontational behavior. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<
*'''Request for continuation''' I request that the case proceedings (if accepted) not begin until this Sunday, February 18th. This is because I will be out of town for some important business, which will deny me access to Wikipedia. I hope the arbitrators and clerks will find this request reasonable, as I'm asking for only a very short delay. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<
::It also appears that one party to the dispute is not active and has not responded to the notification. It will provide some more time for that editor, [[user:Siddiqui|Siddiqui]] to make a statement and allow arbitrators to decide if he is to be a party (in wake of his absence). [[User:Rama's Arrow|<
== Statement by [[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] ==
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This is EXACTLY what I mean. I provided half a dozen sources for the figure of 3.5 Million people moving out of Pakistan. All sources were ignored, and first these guys claim the figure was 7 million something, then 10 million something, now AMbroodEY is claiming the figure was 15 million for Sindh alone!. No sources of course. Thank you.<br />
And btw User Chattezavecmoi is an Obvious Sock of someone. He only has 1 contribution, which seems to be a disruption of my Statement.<br />
--<b>[[User:Unre4L|<
'''Comment:''' i meant 1'''.'''5 million. As for your 'sources' are you talking about this edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Partition_of_India&diff=102512593&oldid=102411504.]?
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It is impossible to put a number to the number of refugees during the partition. Estimates range from 8 million to 15 million. Conservative estimates suggest that over 500000-2 million people were killed disproportionate number of them being Sikhs and Hindus. Migration continued until mid-1950's.
Yes your encarta link does say that there were 3.5 million Hindu refugees but it also puts the number of Muslim refugess to 5 million. Why did you selectively edit the number for only Hindu refugees?The 7.5 million figure is cited from Azad, Maulana Abul Kalam. India Wins Freedom. New York: Longmans, Green and Co., 1960. and [[Freedom at Midnight]]. <b>[[User:AMbroodEY|<
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I did not selectively edit anything. Unlike you I took random sources. And we were discussing [[Hindu]]s moving out of Pakistan. Not [[Muslim]]s moving in. Your keep giving figures with both numbers added up. Now please dont cause a disruption of my statement. --<b>[[User:Unre4L|<
==Preliminary decisions==
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1) [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith]] contemplates the extension of courtesy and good will to other editors on the assumption that they, like you, are here to build an information resource with a neutral point of view based on reliable, verifiable sources.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Sockpuppets===
2) Abuse of sockpuppet accounts, such as using them to evade blocks, bans, and user accountability–and especially to make personal attacks or reverts, or vandalize–is strictly forbidden. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppets]].
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Wikipedia is not a soapbox===
3) The use of Wikipedia for political propaganda is prohibited.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Wikipedia is not a battleground===
4) Wikipedia is a reference work. Use of the site for political struggle accompanied by harassment of opponents is extremely disruptive.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Disruptive editing===
5) Users who engage in disruptive editing may be banned from the site.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
== Findings of fact ==
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1) {{userlinks|Szhaider}} has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempts to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Szhaider&diff=99236044&oldid=99228234], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Urdu&diff=prev&oldid=90734951], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Szhaider&diff=100825644&oldid=100824849]).
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Unre4L===
2) {{userlinks|Unre4L}} has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakhub&diff=prev&oldid=96327449], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=93972987], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Unre4L&diff=93072639&oldid=93071222], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indus_Valley_Civilization&diff=prev&oldid=99892391]).
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Siddiqui===
3) {{userlinks|Siddiqui}} has an extensive history of abusive sockpuppetry (see [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Siddiqui|checkuser results]]), aggressive edit-warring (see block log), and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Szhaider&diff=prev&oldid=98182179], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abulfazl&diff=prev&oldid=98554949], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HamzaOmar&diff=prev&oldid=98555229]).
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Nadirali===
4) {{userlinks|Nadirali}} has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nadirali&diff=prev&oldid=90918518], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anupam&diff=prev&oldid=90803401], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=91033095], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Szhaider&diff=prev&oldid=90823582]).
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
==Remedies==
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1) {{userlinks|Szhaider}} is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Unre4L banned===
2) {{userlinks|Unre4L}} is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Siddiqui banned===
3) {{userlinks|Siddiqui}} is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Nadirali banned===
4) {{userlinks|Nadirali}} is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.
''Passed 6 to 0, 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)''
===Contentious topic designation===
===Standard discretionary sanctions===▼
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5) [[WP:AC/DS|Standard discretionary sanctions]] are authorized for all pages related to [[India]], [[Pakistan]], and [[Afghanistan]], broadly construed.
''Passed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&oldid=504800033#Motion_.28India-Pakistan.29 motion] 8 to 2, 18:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)''
::''Superseded by [[#Motion: contentious topic designation (December 2022)|motion]] at 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)''
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5) All pages related to [[India]], [[Pakistan]], and [[Afghanistan]], broadly construed, are designated as a [[WP:CTOP|contentious topic]].
: ''Amended by [[#Motion: contentious topic designation (December 2022)|motion]] at 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)''
==Enforcement==
{{Arbitration standard provisions}}
==Amendments==
===Motion 1 (April 2018)===
The discretionary sanctions appeal by MapSGV is sustained, and the topic-ban imposed on MapSGV on March 2, 2018 is lifted. MapSGV remains on notice that the India/Pakistan topic-area is subject to discretionary sanctions, and is reminded to edit in accordance with all applicable policies.
:''Passed 6 to 2 with 1 abstention by [[Special:Permalink/835271096#Motion 1|motion]] at 17:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)''
===Motion 2 (April 2019)===
SheriffIsInTown's topic ban from pages related to conflict between India and Pakistan is lifted, subject to a probationary period lasting six months from the date this motion is enacted. During this period, any uninvolved administrator may re-impose the topic ban as an arbitration enforcement action, subject to appeal only to the Arbitration Committee. If the probationary period elapses without incident, the topic ban is to be considered permanently lifted.
:''Passed 6 to 2 by [[Special:Permalink/OLDID#MOTIONSECTIONNAME|motion]] at 22:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)''
=== Motion: contentious topic designation (December 2022) ===
{{hatnote|1=As part of the [[WP:CT2022|2022 adoption of the contentious topics procedure]], the Arbitration Committee adopted the following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/2021-22_review#Administrative_provisions|motion]] to re-designate existing discretionary sanctions remedies as contentious topic designations.}}
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21) Each reference to the prior [[WP:AC/DS|discretionary sanctions procedure]] shall be treated as a reference to the [[WP:AC/CT|contentious topics procedure]]. The arbitration clerks are directed to amend all existing remedies authorizing discretionary sanctions to instead designate contentious topics.
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:''Passed 10 to 0 with 1 abstention by [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/2021-22_review#Administrative_provisions|motion]] at 21:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)''
==Enforcement log==
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*{{User|Abhidevananda}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abhidevananda&diff=545618112&oldid=545612526 notified] by {{User|CorrectKnowledge}} 06:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Maria0333}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Maria0333&diff=prev&oldid=545745758 warned] for nationalist editing at [[Baloch Students Organization]]. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 18:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Dipendra2007}} [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dipendra2007&diff=553227152&oldid=553147245 warned]] for sockpuppetry block evasion to edit-war. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<
*{{User|Ratnakar.kulkarni}} Per [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#What_I_would_really_like this] ANI discussion (Non admin warning) [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 17:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Yogesh Khandke}} Per [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#What_I_would_really_like this] ANI discussion (Non admin warning) [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 17:48, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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*{{user|Kswarrior}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kswarrior&diff=prev&oldid=594396478 Notified], for edit warring, pov pushing and accusations of editing in bad faith. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 17:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Khabboos}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Khabboos&diff=595477317&oldid=595403046 notified] of discretionary sanctions and advised of dispute resolution policies. [[User:ErikHaugen|ErikHaugen]] <small>([[User talk:ErikHaugen|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ErikHaugen|contribs]])</small> 18:06, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
**[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=617260128&oldid=617251891 Prohibited] from appealing more than every six months.
*{{user|AcidSnow}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AcidSnow&diff=595478242&oldid=595468672 notified] of discretionary sanctions and advised of dispute resolution policies. [[User:ErikHaugen|ErikHaugen]] <small>([[User talk:ErikHaugen|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ErikHaugen|contribs]])</small> 18:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Vinay Jha}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vinay_Jha&diff=599784777&oldid=599773580 notified]. PoV pushing. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 22:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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===Log of blocks and bans===
Any block, restriction, ban, or sanction performed under the authorisation of a remedy for this case must be logged in this section. Please specify the administrator, date and time, nature of sanction, and basis or context. Unless otherwise specified, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standardized enforcement provision|standardised enforcement provision]] applies to this case. ''All sanctions issued pursuant to a discretionary sanctions remedy must be logged at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/Log]].''
*[[User:Szhaider|Szhaider]], [[User:Unre4L|Unre4L]], [[User:Siddiqui|Siddiqui]], and [[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] each blocked for one year to implement the decision. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 22:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
* {{User|Nadirali}} reblocked on July 16 for socking. '''[[User:Blnguyen|<
* {{User|Szhaider}} reblocked on August 30 for socking. '''[[User:Blnguyen|<
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