Commons:Deletion requests/Image:ONeill-Eugene-LOC.jpg

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Image:ONeill-Eugene-LOC.jpg

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  •  Deletesource page[1] says photo was undated, no way to know copyright status Mangostar (talk) 03:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info Lack of date means nothing in terms of copyright status from LOC. That being said - While there is a Biblio ref # - I can't find a details page for that image. Maybe someone else with more LOC time can find something? --ShakataGaNai Talk 04:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment This is also a heavily used image. I am concerend that in an effort to clear the images from the old {{PD-LOC}} template we may be acting hasty. There are a lot of images that were tagged all at once. Well, both the subject and the author died at least fifty years ago. I say we tag it as {{PD-US-no notice}}. Evrik (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Evrik (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unfortunately "it is used" doesn't override Copyright violations. I found at least 10 other images of Eugene O'Neill on the LOC website - Evrik - if you are concern about the lack of picture: Go to the LOC and find one that is clearly PD and upload it. I'll happily kick CommonsDelinker to do a universal replace from this old picture to the new one you find. --ShakataGaNai Talk 21:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I think you missed the point of what I was saying. Because it's a popular image, we shouldn't be hasty. Now, because both the photographer, and the subject are dead, and because no one has contacted either the LOC or wikimedia to assert their copyright, I think it would a safe bet to assume {{PD-US-no notice}}. Also, none oif the images I found in Category:Eugene O'Neill were near the quality of this one. Evrik (talk) 20:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The time frame for this photograph stretches from the late 1910s to the 1920s, as Boughton closed her photography studio in 1930. This image is, in all likelihood, in the public domain, as the LOC does not specify any known restrictions on its publication. Luckily, there are a number of Van Vechten alternatives available, including [2],[3],[4],[5], & [6]. Nonetheless, deleting this image because of a trivial uncertainty seems paranoid, Boughton's copyright is not maintained by a litigious estate. ˉanetode╦╩ 21:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aside from checking out the book (Boughton, Alice (1928) Photographing the Famous, Category:New York: Avondale Press ) from a library of rare books, I don't see how we could verify it. Boughton and O'Neill were friends, so it may have been a private sitting. I object to using term "anal retentive" and "copyright fetishism," it more a failure to use reason and common sense. ;-) Anyway, I predict this image will get deleted simply because we can't 100% verify that it was released ... I still think we should use {{PD-US-no notice}}, because really - there is no notice. Evrik (talk) 18:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep If the US copyright authorities say they cannot find a record of copyright, then they're the best authority on the subject. Nobody else would be able to, either. -Nard 13:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. COM:PRP applies in the absence of credible evidence that this falls into the public domain prior to 2013. MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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