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File:Seal_of_the_National_Transitional_Council_(Libya).svg

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The {{PD-simple}} is doubtfull. Maybe to original license of the SVG {{PD-Libya}} is correct, maybe not. JuTa 12:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Um, what? I have no idea what you're talking about. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Look at this version, where {{PD-simple}} was applied. --JuTa 15:15, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PD-Libya is correct, but there are many people here preferring copyfraud CC-licences. Speedy keep OK?--Antemister (talk) 18:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have any idea what the issue is here either. Both licenses are valid. "PD-Simple is doubtfull (sic)"? What is that supposed to mean? How is it doubtful? Virtually every other national seal on Wikipedia uses the exact same pair of licenses: [1], [2], [3]. Can we stop talking about this now? This is ridiculous. Speedy keep. -- E. Brown from Wikipedia
All of the images you showed are public domain because of symbols being exempt from copyright protection or due to age. This image fits neither of those categories and we routinely delete coat of arms of countries. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I had to jump through bloody hoops to get that Arabic text right. I changed the license from {{PD-simple}} to {{PD-Libya}} because it seemed logical. I don't actually know what the legal position is given what's going on in Libya at the moment. The reason I used {{PD-simple}} in the first place was because another NTC logo was using the same license. Let's see what happens in the transition of Libya before we start nuking what will be a useful image for lots of wikis. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 15:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only way this could be PD under PD Libya is if "It is one of "official documents such as texts of laws, decrees, regulations, international agreements, legal judgements and various official documents"" since everything else is dependent on time and the seal was just created in, I believe, March of this year. Currently, the main websites are down for the NTC so I cannot check their documents. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:47, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
From en "The National Transitional Council, supported as the legitimate administration by the United Nations since September 2011, uses a seal to certify official documents". As this is a seal and not a CoA then by its very nature, i.e. certifying official documents, it becomes part of those official documents thereby becoming PD. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 18:32, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is the common policy here that seals or emblems on PD-official documents are also PD, except the the case such copyright protection is explicitly stated--Antemister (talk) 19:14, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That works for me. Keep. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 23:18, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention the fact that the ne'er-do-wells who made the country's laws spent time in a meat-locker regretting their actions and not being overly concerned about copyright. Just one more thing for Saif to get a bit hot under the collar about though I suppose. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 23:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can we close this DR, we can keep it as PD-Libya, as we do with thousands of other such files.--Antemister (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. FASTILY (TALK) 12:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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