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Funny user name of the day

This one takes me back to the old days too: 2allbeefpattiesspecialsaucelettucecheesepicklesonionsonasesameseedbun... INeverCry 07:00, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Ha, ya it does... I think I ate the whole thing and can't get up. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:17, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Wrong Deletions

The SVG file was deleted as well. SVG was to be kept; Commons:Deletion requests/File:Battles of Ancient Greece.jpg the jpg was to be deleted, the svg was linked to show that a better file existed. This was to be kept, File:Battles of Ancient Greece 700-168 BC (English).svg .

Same here; Commons:Deletion requests/File:GreatIllyrianRevolt.jpg jpg was to be deleted, svg to be kept. MaryroseB54 (talk) 09:54, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Please undelete the 2 svg files :) MaryroseB54 (talk) 10:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@MaryroseB54 ...  Done. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Outch - I am working on these files

Hello,

As an OTRS volunteer, I am working on the huge list that you can find in the undeletion request that got accepted. Could you please stop deleting the files from the list (File:Blaise Patrix 5.jpg File:Blaise Patrix 4.jpg) while I am going up this list?

Best,

--Scoopfinder^(d) 18:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Scoopfinder: I don't have any access to "the undeletion request" unless you provide a link. Those two were the only ones on the speedy page which were of art and do not have an OTRS mention in the template. You might wish to go over to the speedies and modify some of those nominations because there are others still there that I did not do because of the OTRS case number mentioned. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:44, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#Files_uploaded_by_Xavierd80. Like I said, I am goign trough this list, but it is splitted between dozens of OTRS ticket and take some time to treat them. --Scoopfinder^(d) 18:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I've restored those 2 again and replaced the speedy tag with {{OTRS pending}}. INeverCry 18:55, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey INeverCry & Ellin Beltz! I just finished this big list and conencted the dots between the tickets and the files and removing the duplicates. You can safely delete all the files from Xavierd80 that have a speedy deletion (using VFC for example) :-) I will get the last emails to validate the remaing permissions of the other files in the next days. Thank you both --Scoopfinder^(d) 19:19, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I did the needed deletions. INeverCry 20:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by PlanetUser

Hello, I do not believe we should delete these files unless there are copyright problems. It has been brought to my attention that some of the deletions were without replacements. I think it would be best if this is properly addressed. -- とある白い猫 ^ちぃ？ 20:07, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi とある白い猫/16 : There's no reason to keep piles of duplicates of the same images. I deleted "the three images which were listed as duplicates and for which duplicate Commons file URLs were provided were deleted. The remainder which did not have exact urls for comparison were kept." The identical image which you are concerned about is listed in the DN commentary File:Apollo 12 (15012100809).jpg. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I would argue is that we should avoid deleting duplicate files as it is not like we are saving drive space. I would agree that having duplicate files is plainly annoying. However, why not leave a redirect in place of the duplicate files? That way even page histories will properly work with the correct files displaying in the correct place. Also while at it, it may be best if identical files are history merged. This way dupes wouldn't even be deleted and everyone is happy with a full history of the file in question. -- とある白い猫 ^ちぃ？ 19:32, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Atapuerca pictures

Hello, you have deleted 3 pictures I recently added about Atapuerca. Two pictures come from a PLOS One article, that is under the CC-BY-4.0. The last picture was taken by an independent photographer whose name was in the 'author' field and who wrote me on twitter he put it under the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 licence. Thus I do not understand why the deletion happened. Thanks in advance if you can guide me. --UtaUtaNapishtim (talk) 20:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi UtaUtaNapishtim: The PLOS article is not free to copy as "own work". Some form of linkage to the claimed 4.0 license needed to be provided. On the other image, if you have permissions from someone that's great, but it doesn't fulfill the Commons requirements, please see COM:OTRS. Please feel free to take your request for review to COM:UNDEL where another administrator can have a look! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Great, thank you for your quick answer ! But then how can I know when pictures can be shared or not ? If PLOS One contents are CC-BY-4.0, why can't they be shared here ? Thanks. --UtaUtaNapishtim (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi UtaUtaNapishtim: They might very well be able to be put here, but I'd like another admin to take a look at it to give you a second and unbiased opinion! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Solonese

Hello, You nominated my photos to be deleted. Well, I have full permission to use these pictures given by the actress herself. Thank you.

Solonese

Excuse me, you deleted the Cover picture from Anna-Maria Hallgarn album. As I wrote in a previous message I have a full right to publish it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solonese (talk • contribs) 13:25, 04 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Solonese: Please have the owner of the copyright send email to COM:OTRS, thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Australian Mist

Well, I found one CC image on Flickr: File:Australian Mist (4985423018).jpg. I'm not sure if you could use it as a replacement for File:Australian Mist.jpg, but sometimes it's slim pickings at Flickr... INeverCry 19:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Paul signac, donne al pozzo (giovani provenzali al pozzo), 1892, 01.JPG and File:Paul signac, strada di gennevilliers (faubourg di parigi), 1883.JPG

Hi, I think you made a mistake deletins these 2 photographs of mine. I am the author of about 150.000 images I generously upload on Commons (there are more not in the category), many of them are pieces of art I shot in museums, and for this great contribute to the project i was supported by Wikimedia CH to upgrade my photograph tools and skills. When I uplaod, as source I have to put "own", meaning the pictures is mine, of course I am not a painter, so if I shot a painting I clearly state in the filename and categories who is the real author.

If you calculate I contribute to Commons for 10 years, that makes an average of about 15.000 files a year (of course in the beginning there were not so many files, much more are now, recently). Imagine like I shot 50 pictures a day every single day of my life, I put a name in each one, I retouch them of Photoshop and then I upload them on Commons. I definitely know I could use a sharper template on Commons to each single type of artwork I upload, for each site, variating the licence, the decription and selecting almost 10 categories for each, but I think at some points it's too much. I have to use a general good licence for them all, and use the most common sense description and categories.

This is the very first time I get some files deleted because they were actually "more free" than what I wrote, and there is really no reason to discard my good-quality files because of a cooler free version downloadable from internet. My files very often include the frame (reason why I was thanksd more than once by art historians around the world), and offer a real vision of how the artwork looks like in the museum, according to the current lighting of the room.

So please, I am asking you to restore these two files, being more accurate when you decide to cancel a file, for the future. If you are not going to restore the images please give some valid reasons not to, so that I can ask somebody else. Thank you. --Sailko (talk) 22:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Sailko: The situation began because you uploaded those pictures as "own work" when they are actually the work of a famous painter! Both source fields read "own work" and there was no mention of the artist at all in the template. Anything can be categorized any which way, what is in the title could be anything, but what is important is to provide accurate template information. Besides the fact that both File:Paul Signac Femmes au puits 1892 high resolution.jpg and File:Paul Signac Road to Gennevilliers.jpg are of higher quality than your images, they're also correctly credited and attributed as well as in use all over the project. There is really no reason to keep lesser size/quality duplicates of the same images. If you'd like someone else to take another look, please don't hesitate to request a review at COM:UNDEL. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:31, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi! One of the images had frame, so it's not exact duplicate. Also, when a template is wrong you fix the template, you do not cancel the image. --Sailko (talk) 17:10, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

If you'd like someone else to take another look, please don't hesitate to request a review at COM:UNDEL. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:11, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Documents from a court case

Can you see Special:Contributions/Abilicom and figure out if the files are compliant with policy? This person appears to be arguing a court case on Wikipedia, for instance with this edit. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 20:57, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Binksternet:

Please see and feel free to comment on:

• Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Abilicom
• Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bohemian Club employee David Gelsinger's Bohemian Club employee identification badges, subject of a lawsuit captioned Gelsinger V. Bohemian Club, et al, circa. 2011.jpg
• Commons:Deletion requests/File:Map-of-Medicine-Lodge-at-Bohemian-Grove-drawn-ny-David-Gelsinger-in-2011.png
• Commons:Deletion requests/File:David Gelsinger at Bohemian grove Medicine Lodge circa 2011.jpg

Due to the different kinds of files and their various situations, I nominated separately. Good to see the POV edits were also reverted, but two editors doing the same thing, one gets blocked and the other appears... how "unusual". Thanks for the heads-up! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, Commons:Deletion requests/File:DAVID GELSINGER IN THE BOHEMIAN GROVE.pdf for a version uploaded by Northerncalifornian (same one as did the 6K of edits on the en:wiki). Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:52, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Both accounts blocked here as SPAs, and uploads deleted. INeverCry 16:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks INeverCry! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Image source

Hello, I noticed a request to add a source to this image File:Polish border 1939.jpg that I recently posted — I went ahead and added a source, and just want to confirm if that is ok, to keep the image, and remove my name form the new user page [1]. --E-960 (talk) 18:26, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi E-960: Great job on the source, thank you. I can't removed you from the new user page, see the FAQ's https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:OgreBot/Uploads_by_new_users/FAQ, the page is automatically generated. I was on it until I got enough edits too! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 04:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Removal of photos on Joseph Fuller and Robert Perless pages

This is very disturbing. I am a new contributor and we have followed all your requests. Fuller says that all the photos on his page that you have deleted were taken by him and should be restored. What is the problem? How do we do this?

File:Old Town Hall Interior.jpg

File:CCNY Longshot.jpg

File:AITE Exterior.jpg

File:AITE Longshot.jpg

Also, as to File:Orion's Belt Perless.jpg, Robert Perless sent you a message saying that we had taken the photo. What else do we have to do? (Robert is my husband, and everything submitted on his page I know for a fact was taken by him because I was there.)

Please send exactly what has to be done for each of these files. also, where will I find the files so I can send the exact url? Have they been removed from the Commons?

Eperless (talk) 13:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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To find the file names involved, all you have to do is look at your own (talk) page! see User talk:Eperless Each file which is nominated generates an informative box explaining the problem.

Since you're uploading pictures which you didn't create, you're getting a lot of boxes. Each one offers you help at COM:L, also called "Commons:Licensing", but the upload problems persist.

Let me make this super simple. If you didn't take the photograph yourself, you cannot upload it to Commons unless you can provide the proper permission from the person who created the image.

In cases like this, where there are at least four photographers work all being uploaded by one person, who may or may not be any of the four, a situation called COM:PRP, the Precautionary Principle goes to work and the files are examined carefully.

Here is a list (the same as the one on your talk page) with additional comments.

• File:Exterior Old Town Hall.jpg - deleted, no permission June 11, 2016. It is identical to the next file which was uploaded July 8, 2016, after the first one was deleted. Uploading copyright violating pictures which have formerly been deleted is so highly not recommended as to be forbidden. I suspect you thought that the email you posted on your talk page was enough, but had you followed the links in the paragraph to COM:L, you'd have found he needs to send it directly to Commons, to a link at COM:OTRS. This process is very simple and direct.

• File:Old Town Hall Stamford, CT.jpg - identical to the prior photo which was previously deleted. Again, no permission "Source Kyle Norton sent an email in June giving permission" and no license at all.

One of the several problems is, on the edit you posted "Thursday, April 14, 2016... Hi Carol, You have my permission to post any images to wikipedia. Kyle Norton" Wikimedia Commons only accepts free licenses. What Mr. Norton wrote you is a conditional license because he gave you permission to post to Wikipedia. Commons isn't Wikipedia, they have different licensing requirements. To approve a license for Commons, Mr. Norton would need to directly email COM:OTRS volunteers, it's really simple and the sample letter is on that page as well as the email address and so on. To read about the licenses available, please follow this link which is the same one as in the prior notice about this file... visit COM:L.

These two links COM:L and COM:OTRS are repeated throughout all the notification boxes on your talk page. You asked "wasn't this enough" and had you read the next box down, you'd see it wasn't and clearly explained why and what to do about it.

• File:AITE Exterior.jpg was deleted as a copyright violation because the metadata showed the creator was Kyle P. Norton, it was uploaded as "own" work of Eperless and given a self license which is not possible.
• File:CCNY Longshot.jpg was found at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2637688208, marked (c), but uploaded as "own work" of Eperless and again given self-license. This flickr page is owned by "jag9889" and every single image I checked is marked copyright. I don't see any permission or connection to this image at all from Eperless.
• File:Old Town Hall Interior.jpg was deleted as a copyright violation because the metadata showed the creator was Kyle P. Norton, it was uploaded as "own" work of Eperless and given a self license which is not possible.
• File:Orion's Belt Perless.jpg - Permission was PD-self, uploaded by Eperless, with the statement that both source and author were Robert Perless. It was deleted as there was no permission or real source for the image and the license is again a self license.

• File:AITE Long Shot.jpg nominated for deletion July 10, 2016 because it "is of very poor quality for its size, and it appears to be derived from http://schooldesigns.com/Portals/0/SD_Images/Projects/811asu064a.jpg. This one says "own work" as the source. Please comment at Commons:Deletion requests/File:AITE Long Shot.jpg, and explain how the picture lost its watermark "SchoolDesigns.com" on the way from over there to over here. Incidentally the metadata shows that the software used to create this was Photoshop CS4 for Macintosh, it didn't come directly from a camera.

• Finally four more images were nominated together
  1. File:Staples Entrance.jpg -- Canon EOS 5D, 20 April 2006
  2. File:Staples Longshot.jpg -- Nikon D40, 31 May 2008
  3. File:CCNY Niche.jpg -- Macintosh Photoshop again
  4. File:CCNY Long shot.jpg -- Sony CD Mavica, 21 April 2003

With the reason "No confidence that these photos were created by uploader, variable sizes, three cameras and four pictures, no apparent connection in white balance, composition etc. User's other uploads had metadata crediting another name as well as one picture "sent by". Please read COM:L befor emaking more uploads." You can comment on this request here.

So for all the people here, we have

• Carol Stroh (speaking on behalf of Joseph Fuller, Jr. AIA President, who doesn't seem to have created any of the images),
• Kyle Norton (who is named in the metadata of some of the images),
• jag9889 (from flickr - no apparent connection),
• Robert Perless and
• Ellen Perless.

However all the images are uploaded as "own" work, which is obviously impossible. Regardless of how new you are to Commons, the basic idea is still the same. Only upload your own work, unless you get COM:OTRS permission from the real photographer, and be sure to give all uploads a valid license, please see COM:L.

For the architectural images which were designed by Mr. Fuller, we'd need a COM:OTRS from him as well as the photographer because the United States has no "Freedom of Panorama" and the architectural works themselves have copyright over and above the copyright of the image. You can read more about this at COM:FOP.

For the sculptures which were created by Mr. Perless, we need a COM:OTRS from him to cover the sculpture as well as a COM:OTRS from the photographer, for the same COM:FOP reason.

There is an additional problem with these images in that someone else has uploaded some of the same images before and some have been deleted, see the talk page of Jmoskowitz

• File:Orion's Belt Kinetic Sculpture.jpg source=Robert Perless Official Website, deleted March 5, 2013 by Fastily
• File:Robert Perless - Kinetic Artist.jpg source=Robert Perless Official Website, deleted Feb. 6, 2013 by Yann
• File:SolarWind 2000.jpg source=Robert Perless Official Website
• File:DreamWeaver.jpg source=Robert Perless Official Website

Jmoskowitz also appears to be a major contributor to the Robert Perless article, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Perless&action=history

Also the Eperless account is the major contributor to the Joseph Fuller page, as seen https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Fuller&action=history

Both of these pages suffer from being written like promotion or press releases and light on citations. I'm asking our friendly Wikipedia editor, Binksternet, to help out with the two wiki pages: Joseph Fuller and Robert Perless and also asking another Commons administrator, INeverCry, who has not been involved so far to look in at the situation here on Commons. Thank you for your letter, please do read COM:L. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Reply

I have added citations to the Robert Perless page yesterday along with Orion's Belt. The page has been up for 3 years and the reviewers have felt it was fine. Robert Perless has major sculptures all over the country and you are making a mountain over a molehill. Robert gave permission on Ticket # 2016071010007011 for the use of the Orion's Belt photograph. What is the problem with you people? There are 18 citations on the Fuller page, including the New York Times. How can you say that these entries are light on citations. The citation that I added yesterday on the Robert Perless page is also from the New York Times. Eperless (talk) 16:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Please don't work yourself up. This is a process, not a judgement. While you may feel that it is a mountain, realize that it is a mountain easily scaled by thousands of other people who didn't fight the system or get upset, but rather worked within it. Remember that while the Commons servers are here in the U.S., we deal with images from around the world - each has to be fully public to be hosted here for free. You are welcome to start a webpage or a Facebook page and upload anything you want to it, but Commons can only host free images. The only OTRS permission I see is on File:Robert_Perless.jpg which was uploaded by Jmoskowitz, ticket #2013020710006328. As I don't have permissions to read the OTRS files, I'm asking administrator ~riley or administrator Natuur12 to please take a look to see what that ticket covers. I do not see anywhere a ticket number for the Orion Belt image on the file templates, no one can know it exists if it is not placed on the file. You gave it as File:Orion's Belt Perless.jpg ticket # 2016071010007011, again, I'd ask an OTRS volunteer to review this image/ticket as well. OTRS administrators can restore images when/if the permissions are correct. We will work through these images with your help, there is no reason to be upset by a process which protects the rights of architects, artists and photographers. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

ticket:2016071010007011 is one sentence long and states "(Redacted) sent permission for this file on Friday." (redacted is a person name being kept confidential) ~riley (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

ticket:2016061210008607 contains Wikipedia-only permission for Kyle Norton images. ticket:2016061410011841 also is a ticket for Kyle Norton processed by Amitie 10g and includes proper release that extends to the image File:Old Town Hall Stamford, CT.jpg, now tagged. That is all the information that I am aware of relating to this user. ~riley (talk) 16:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Reply

I have also sent Mr. fuller a request for him to fill out an OTRS form as the Architect whose work is depicted in the images. He it OOT right now but will do that shortly.

I am very disturbed that you have raised the issue that the material is "promotional" and would like to know how to contact the person called Binksternet that you have asked to look over the entries. Mr. Perless' entry by jmoskowitz has been accepted since 2013, and all I did was upload an image of a sculpture Perless did in a photograph he took, and add the requested citation, which was from the New York Times. It is very unfair that you are raising conceptual issues that were answered 3 years ago, just because I am new to your process and do not understand all the correct forms. I was going to add YouTube URLs, because it is important to see kinetic sculpture in motion, but now I am afraid to do so.

In the case of Mr. Fuller's entry, I have 18 references to publications. The copy is merely explanatory of the architecture and its program.

There are numerous areas in which I could contribute, but Wikipedia makes it very hard for new contributors to join your ranks. Eperless (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Reply

Thanks for your help. It is very difficult for new contributors to understand the process and the relationship between the Commons and Wikipedia itself. I have sent Kyle Norton the OTRS form for him to fill out and submit for his files. Robert Perless has filled out an OTRS form today for [File: Orion's Belt Perless.jpg] and sent that back on Ticket # 2016071010007011.

File:CCNY Longshot.jpg which was found at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2637688208, was sent to me by Mr. fuller as the work of his office. He may have misremembered, or the author may be someone at Fuller d'Angelo. Is there away to link to a flickr image?Or do we need to reshoot?

Mr. Fuller owns various cameras. So does Mr. Perless.

The Long Shot of AITE definitely does not belong to SchoolDesign although they were given permission to publish it. A low res version was sent and was PhotoShopped on this computer.

Kyle Norton has received permission on the [File: Old Town Hall Stamford, CT.jpg] which follows:

> From: Permissions - Wikimedia Commons <permissions-commons@wikimedia.org> > Date: July 10, 2016 at 12:58:31 PM EDT > To: kyle@kylenorton.com > Subject: Re: [Ticket#2016061410011841] release > > Dear Kyle Norton, > > I have made the necessary modifications to the file page. > > Thank you for your contribution to Wikimedia Commons. > > Yours sincerely, > Riley Huntley > > -- > Wikimedia Commons - https://commons.wikimedia.org/ > --- Thank you for all your help. Eperless (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Michele Manerchia Masarà

It's true that I have take this on internet but from my site, I have the copyright. I already sent the authorization to Wikipedia and this was accepted. For the quality sorry but they are old photos ('800) and there isn't a better quality. So please don't delete this images. There is no reason. Tell me how I can improve the description but don't delete. I'm waiting. Thanks. Michele Manerchia Masarà — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michele Manerchia Masarà (talk • contribs) 08:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Michele Manerchia Masarà: Please leave your comments at the discussion about the images at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Michele Manerchia Masarà as listed on your talk page. Please provide the authorization number for the images which you say you received on that page to help the closing administrator assist you. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:05, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Löschung

Hallo. Du hast Anfang 2015 meine Datei File:Jubilaeumslogo Verein für die Geschichte Berlins.png gelöscht, leider kann ich nicht mehr prüfen, wie die Diskussion damals verlief. Verstehen kann ich es bis heute nicht, da ich die Datei selbst kreiert habe... Ich würde sie gerne hochladen, wie kann ich das bestenfalls machen? Über Deine Hilfe wäre ich sehr dankbar! --Klius (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Google translate... "Deletion Hello. You have my file early 2015. File:Jubilaeumslogo Association for the History Berlins.png deleted, unfortunately I can no longer consider how the discussion was at that time. I can understand it to this day, as I have done the file yourself ... I would like to upload, how can I make the best? About your help I would be very grateful! - Klius ( ⧼Talk Page Link Text⧽ </ span>) 15:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Klius: The file was claimed as "own work" when it included a logo or seal that was made by someone else and incorporated into the design. You need the permission of the person or agency who actually created that logo, it can't be uploaded as "own work" because it isn't. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

difficult to understand

I apologyze but I find really difficult to understand How it works. Really frustrating. I really wonder how people create pages in wikipedia. I am creating a Page regarding an artist, I am tryng to add a simple picture I have the rights, I declaired to give the rights to wikipedia many times, anytime I try to add the picture it says the file already exist but I don't see it on the page, and then I receive messages that the picture are going to be delated because no rights. I am really confused — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giostile2 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Giostile2: Please leave your comments at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Two Works of Giannoni.jpg. This isn't very difficult to understand. This website is not Wikipedia. For help with Wikipedia, please write their village pump. On Commons, you[ve uploaded The current image is a composite of several images of a man and some artwork. Each one of the base images of that composite need to be credited to their creator/s *and* you need the artist's permission for his paintings.

Note that File:The Artist in Italy.jpg and File:The Artist in his studio in Florence, with two of his tipycal subjects.jpg. contain the same base images as File:Two Works of Giannoni.jpg, so you are uploading the same images over and over without establishing permission on any of them. Please read COM:L before making more uploads. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Empty...

Here's how it looks once in a while: File:Empty speedy deletion categories on Commons.png... I've got the DR backlogs down to 3 weeks which is pretty good. If you find yourself with a daily DR page with one or two complex DRs left that you can't close, I would suggest re-listing them on a newer daily DR page, usually the one that's exactly one week old and so closeable, and then deleting the old daily DR page. I do it now and then when I run into one of these riddle of the Sphinx DRs... INeverCry 01:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi INeverCry, you know my stats are dropping like a rock now that you're doing all the deletions! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Just imagine if my old friend Fastily was back on the deletion team... You could always forget about deletion and help me sort out Category:Files uploaded by INeverCry (check needed)... INeverCry 17:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Actually INC, I might get to uploading the 400 or so images backed up over the last year. One memory card is still in my camera! Bad photographer!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 03:29, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

I'd love to see them. You could always start Category:Files uploaded by Ellin Beltz (check needed) if you want to take your time with categories and descriptions. INeverCry 03:51, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Nakedb2b

The photos in question were taken at a public event, the "Bay To Breakers." I had the authorization of the photographer and the persons posed in the photo to contribute, and post them for public viewing. They represent body freedom, and promote the acceptance of body freedom. Their use is fully approved, and not intended to offend anyone. Please allow these photos to stay for the public to view or use as they desire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakedb2b (talk • contribs) 23:52, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nakedb2b: The issue isn't body freedom, fully-approved use, or lack of intent to offend (which I'm not and I doubt anyone else volunteering here would be either). The problem is that you uploaded the images as your own work but they're obviously taken by other people. Discuss the issue here: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Nakedb2b where the only concern is the lack of permission from the photographer/s. If you know the photographer/s, please have them complete the simple email form found at COM:OTRS and send it to the address listed there. If this takes a while, don't worry. Ordinarily when valid permissions have been received after an image has been removed from public view, the OTRS volunteers can restore it to visibility. So don't worry, be happy. It's a process not a judgement. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 03:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Ellin, the photos were taken by someone else, but with my camera phone. Both of the women took pictures with their cameras, then I asked if they would mind taking one for me, with my phone. I didn't realize this would be an issue, but I don't want to create problems for you or anyone else. As far as permission, you have mine. I have no way of contacting the women who took the photos (would you give your phone number to a naked stranger?) Anyway, thanks for your help......Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakedb2b (talk • contribs) 14:25, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nakedb2b: Personally I feel your pain, but the rule of copyright is whoever took the photo has the copyright, not whoever owns the camera. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:06, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Ellin, I have other photos taken at the same event, some were sent to me by the photographer. What would I need from them to be able to post them? I know they don't mind if I post them as the photos are already posted on various websites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakedb2b (talk • contribs) 20:42, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nakedb2b: The process is the same, have them do the email at COM:OTRS. Please also learn how to sign your name with four "~~~~" tildes and you don't need to make a new section every time you reply. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Book covers

Dear Ellin, please return the photo cover of my textbook "Communication technologies" - Photography magazine cover communicative technologies - Volume 1 and 2 011.jpg and my monograph "Theory inmutatsii society" - Cover of the monograph AM KHoloda INMUTATSII THEORY SOCIETY (in Ukrainian. language, 2011) .zhpg I am the author of these books and the contract with the publishing house have the right to distribute More Photos cover and content of the book. I would be grateful for your response. Добраго. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Добраго (talk • contribs) 17:17, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi : Administrator Basvb was the closing administrator on that nomination for File:Обложка монографии А. М. Холода ТЕОРИЯ ИНМУТАЦИИ ОБЩЕСТВА (на укр. языке, 2011).jpg. The best way to proceed at this point would be to file a COM:OTRS simple email form. If/when it is accepted, the OTRS administrators can restore the visibility of the file. On the other picture --"7 November 2015 DMacks deleted page File:Фото обложка журнала КОММУНИКАТИВНІЕ ТЕХНОЛОГИИ - том 1 и 2 011.jpg ]]. You could include that file name in your request to OTRS as well. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Recent editions

Hi Ellin, I am surprised to see that you have recently tagged for deletion several images and graphics uploaded by me. Please kindly provide me the reason because I am upset, these images were uploaded with the proper permissions by their author (I can provide evidence of this ) or are either own works. Do not delete them. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanjin (talk • contribs) 18:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hanjin, as stated on the links left on your talk page:

No permission from creator:

File:ElliotBerman.gif

No indication of own work:

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Solar-powered repeater.jpg

Unused & replaced by one of your SVG's

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Esquema autoconsumo.jpg

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Balance-neto.jpg

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Swanson-effect.jpg

Commons:Deletion requests/File:PV 2000-2016.jpg

The duplicates are obviously not necessary since you replaced them with SVG's. The Solar-powered repeater looks like a rephotograph from another source, and Elliot Berman's photo is listed with him as author, so you cannot license it. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

PDF...

For questions about "why was my pdf file deleted?" Please read Commons:Project scope#PDF and DjVu formats, Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Photos to be deleted warning!!!!

Dear Ellen, Based on the warning regarding copyright violation just want to clarify that those photos are my own family heritage since i'm from harfush's family and all the owners and photographers of those photos passed away long time ago which means they are all before the year 1922 that doesn't violate american copyright regulation. I really appreciate your concern about this issue which is important to me as well! And in all my articles i work hard to abide by wikipedia regulations!! Since all my articles are in arabic could you please send me your comments and concerns because those articles are all history topics that are dated from 500 years ago! Regards --Mharfouche (talk) 22:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mharfouche: Please discuss the images at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mharfouche because nothing we discuss here can be included by the closing administrator. The major problem is that they're all claimed as own work; and COM:EVID says it's up to the uploader to say where the images came from, including proper dates and country of origin to determine copyright status. BTW, I don't see 500 year old things, I see color photographs. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 05:51, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Please, have I been blocked from sending emails?

Hi Ellin,

I almost never use the email feature, but over a year ago I received an email from a French lady regarding a picture, and we replied back and forth a few times. As far as I can remember, there was nothing wrong in those emails (but maybe an Administrator here disagrees), and I don't recall having contacted anyone else on Commons using that method. I just wonder if that feature has been disabled for me. You see, around half a year ago, if not further back in time, the "Email this user" feature wasn't working for me. Of course I could try again, but right now I have no one to write to here on Commons. Any clarification of the matter would be very much appreciated, and sooner or later I'll come back and nominate more files for deletion to help out Administrators and other people who work very hard to try to keep Commons free from copyright violations. Kind regards, and thanks in advance... Dontreader (talk) 06:29, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dontreader: I don't see any blocks on your account. It's possible that there was some glitch when you tried it, or that the person you tried to email has it closed. Perhaps admin ~riley can take a look, he's far more "computer savvy" than I am. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dontreader, hope your day is going well. I have no knowledge of any ongoing bug with the email user button, please try to use this direct page: Special:EmailUser and let me know how it works. If I may be of further assistance, my email address is listed publicly on my user page (at the bottom) and I'd be happy to assist from there as well. ~riley (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ellin and ~riley, thank you very much for your help. I'm very happy to know that I wasn't blocked from using the email feature. If I remember correctly, when I tried to send an email a couple of times here on Commons (many months ago), I did not receive an email from Commons with what I wrote in my message (which is what I think did happen when I wrote to the French lady much earlier), and I didn't receive a reply from the person I emailed, even though it's almost impossible to imagine that the person ignored me, given the circumstances. Perhaps it was a glitch, as Ellin said, or an issue with the account I tried to reach. What I will do, since I'm a simple man, is go to Riley's page and send him an email from there, as an experiment only. Please, Riley, if you receive an email from me, just let me know you received it by replying, if you don't mind. Many thanks to both of you for your help and kindness! Dontreader (talk) 19:43, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Dear Ellin and ~riley, I guess the wikigods have forsaken me. This is what I sent to Riley:

Hello Riley,

I have clicked on "Email me a copy of my message". Now I'm sure that the last time I tried to send an email, I clicked on that option but did not receive a copy. Hopefully things will work this time, and please reply with a very brief message just to let me know it's working again.

Many thanks in advance, and have a great day!

Steven

However, I didn't even receive a copy of my message. It could be an end of times sign! Dontreader (talk) 20:03, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if this applies to you, but at one point, people using Yahoo email addresses were unable to send emails with the "email user" function. It was something on the Yahoo side. If that hasn't been fixed, maybe that's the problem. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:59, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, Auntof6 (sorry for pinging you but I'm not 100% sure you are watching the page). Yes indeed, I have a Yahoo account associated with Wikipedia. Apparently the problem has not been fixed in many months, perhaps even a year. That is very odd. As I said, my attempt failed again today. You have lots of rights, I see, on Commons, so please try to contact the pertinent people (Riley too, since Ellin says he's extremely computer savvy). There must be a solution. Many thanks again for your message, which at least makes me feel that I'm not alone in this situation. All the best... Dontreader (talk) 21:27, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

No problem about the ping. I do watch this page, but I appreciate the ping.

I'm not sure how the rights I have come into play here. When I discovered that I was unable to use the email function, I pretty much did all the follow-up I wanted to. I'll leave it to you to do more if you want. You might have to do it from the Yahoo side.

By the way, is your user name a play on "Dawn Treader", as in Voyage of the Dawn Treader? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Auntof6. And I'm sorry if I sounded ignorant when I thought your rights on Commons might help. I'm just a peasant here! I sporadically look for copyright violations in the lists of new files uploaded to Commons, and I only nominate the simplest cases! The mere thought of trying to communicate with Yahoo to solve the problem might cause a short circuit in my brain! Anyway, that's correct: My user name is a play on the book (nice catch!). Actually, some people thought my name was Don't Reader, so I added the correct information to the top of my user page (although few people check it). Best wishes... Dontreader (talk) 22:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

• I received a wikimedia notification that the email was sent, however, my inbox shows nothing. This looks like bug:T137337. ~riley (talk) 00:00, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Please, could you contact a reviewing administrator on Wikipedia?

Hi again, Ellin,

It's not my intention at all to abuse your generosity, but my current situation on Wikipedia is troubling me. An administrator blocked my account indefinitely (the matter can easily be found on my Wikipedia talk page). I had never been blocked before. Anyway, I opened a UTRS appeal a couple of days ago. The reviewing administrator is TParis, who merely has a redirect page here on Commons. From what I gather, I was supposed to hear from him within hours of my appeal, but it's been two and a half days now. Of course under normal circumstances I would just wait for a reply, but I'm worried that the Yahoo mail issue might be causing a problem. Furthermore, if I receive a response and I don't reply in a timely fashion, then the process is closed. I'm just worried that a response may have been sent to me and it never arrived. However, there just might be a delay caused by deliberations. Since I don't know, could you please send TParis an email on Wikipedia, telling him to read this message? I do have a few more days left before the deadline, but TParis is officially semi-retired, and I can't expect you to always be around on Commons, which could cause further communication delays, so I'm asking you for this favor now instead of closer to the deadline. This is in no shape or form an attempt to evade a block. There just happens to be a conflict between Yahoo mail and Wikimedia, as you saw. I just need to know if a message has been sent to me or if I should just wait due to a delay. I hope you understand my concern given the severity of the situation, and I would greatly appreciate your help, please. All the best, Dontreader (talk) 06:19, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Nothing has gotten lost in transmission. No emails have been sent out. I've released the ticket back to the new queue because there are too many nuances for me to investigate and I've left it for another administrator to review.--TParis (talk) 06:39, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks for clarifying the situation, TParis. The "Email this user" feature doesn't seem to work for Yahoo accounts, at least not for a long time, so I was worried. I did receive a generic message from the Unblock Review Team when I finished my appeal, so I guess that's a good sign, but I just hope that whoever sends me a message will send it straight to my email address and not through the system, because there is too much at stake. Thanks again, and best wishes, Dontreader (talk) 06:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dontreader, Any chance of you just getting another email account and "autoforwarding" all the mail to your yahoo? I think you could probably get a free extra account and solve the problem sideways like that. I am sorry that you had troubles on Wikipedia, the only thing I can offer there is that you are not alone; some of our most wonderful contributors to Commons are on the same side of the door as you are. It makes me extremely careful to contribute anything to 'pedia anymore. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:22, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Ellin and the second block is one of the most abusive blocks (involved admin, block given for the offense disproportionate) I have seen in a while. You are not alone and my advice to you would be to appeal your block at the en-wiki Arbcom in a mellow way and you will have to reflect on your own behaviour. If you don't do that the odds are the block will be upheld. Natuur12 (talk) 14:45, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ellin, thank you very much for that advice. I do have other free accounts, so that sounds like an excellent solution. I've never tried to autoforward emails but it can't be that hard. I suppose a Google search on the matter would provide multiple pages with clear instructions. Also, I really appreciate your very kind and comforting words regarding the Wikipedia situation. One of the many things I like about Commons is that when someone nominates a file for deletion, which I have done probably 200 times or more, the closing administrator does what is right to the best of his or her knowledge, and if the admin isn't sure, he or she will consult with other admins. But on Wikipedia, in the name of consensus, too many articles that should be kept are deleted, and too many articles that should be deleted are kept. If I'm allowed to edit there again, it will definitely not be the same. I have totally lost trust in the authorities there. I have already cancelled many constructive projects I had in mind, plus others I was already working on. Many thanks again for your advice, comforting words, and overall kindness! Dontreader (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Natuur12, for taking the time to analyze the situation. I really appreciate the gesture. The decision to block me indefinitely shows very clearly that the administrator was determined to get me out of Wikipedia from the beginning, just as I had suspected all along. I promised to comply with all the demands, but I was blocked indefinitely anyway. If he was acting in good faith he HAD to give me a chance to show that I was sincere. Also, notice that his reason for the indefinite block was "for harassing other users." Who did I harass while I was blocked? His admin buddies? I certainly did not harass the editors I had problems with. It's sad to see admins act like a brotherhood instead of independently and impartially. Another administrator (Drmies) threatened, as you saw, to block me indefinitely "for incompetence". Based on which guideline or policy? That's ridiculous. To make matters even more pathetic, he was an involved admin. But what's even worse is that he's on the Arbcom on Wikipedia. And the admin who warned me (before blocking me and then blocking me indefinitely) said in his warning and also during the block that I was not allowed to even mention the article, the subject of the article, or the editors I had a problem with. He can't do that. There are no guidelines or policies that say I cannot do such things. I would have gotten treated better if I had been held hostage by Somali pirates. I know that my behavior was wrong on many occasions before the block, and I do regret it very much, but for example Rebbing gamed the system in an AfD to block consensus, which is extremely serious. That doesn't excuse my personal attacks, but my frustration is understandable, and an admin must appear to be neutral while handling a problem between two editors, yet he told her "I know it's not your fault", and he gave me a warning that was not based on policy. He portrayed me as a menace to society, when in reality someone who abuses administrative power to that degree is the real threat to the Wikipedia community. I deeply regret that the administrator who reviewed my case decided to pass it on to someone else. TParis (a military guy, and I trust in military personnel), said publicly on DGG's page that he was going to make me an offer. But probably now my case will end up in the hands of one of DGG's buddies, or somebody that he can influence. At least I can continue to contribute on Commons, where volunteers like me are very much needed because there are so many new files being uploaded illegally all the time. Many thanks to both of you for your excellent work here! Dontreader (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Weird username of the week

I noticed this in the log: User:Exonerated torturee... INeverCry 21:57, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

That has to be the most brilliant username I've ever seen, anywhere! And the level of sophistication is truly admirable, especially for just two words! Two days ago I watched the Baywatch intro theme on YouTube (both the iconic music and the scenes with the intro credits). Someone wrote, "This song is so emoceanal." I really appreciated the pun, so after hours of thinking, I wrote, "I think it was recorded in Sand Diego." I was so proud of myself, but this degree of creativity? Sublime! Let's just hope he doesn't behave like what he claims to be, if the torture was severe and recent! Dontreader (talk) 22:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Ichthyoconodon.jpg

The author already sent permission 9 days ago; you have the email address offered, so in case you lost the original email you can still contact him. This refusal to offer closure is hilariously petty, but it needs to be concluded. - Falconfly talk 16:03, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Falconfly: All discussion on this file needs to be on Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ichthyoconodon.jpg. And you need to be patient, COM:OTRS can take up to three weeks, if not longer. Hostility to me and JuTa on the Deletion Nomination is unnecessary. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

deleted pdf - see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Geschwister-Scholl-Weg und Gedenkstein in Ruhland.pdf

Hallo Ellin Beltz, the structure of Wikipedia-page "Geschwister Scholl" requires 2, 3 or 4 sub-categories for 4 named objects (a path, a school, and 2 memorial stones there: Geschwister-Scholl-Schule, Gedenkstein an der Geschwister-Scholl-Schule, Geschwister-Scholl-Weg, Gedenkstein am Geschwister-Scholl-Weg) and their pictures. Every picture may have an explanation, but it will be much better, if there were explanation on relations between them. But this is a (and then are 2...4) Commons-sub-categories - will they then be deleted by reasons of project scope? Or I must link a new Wikipedia-page into the Commons-sub-category - dont know, how and if its possible at all. Therefor I created the pdf, which was deleted without answering of my questions, at last, if a similar jpg will be accepted. Thanks for answer Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 23:43, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: There seems to be some confusion in your notes. This isn't Wikipedia, it's Wikimedia Commons and *pdf files are out of scope. You need to upload only your own work images to Commons and then link to Wikipedia. Each image needs to be uploaded separately, please do not make collages or collections of pictures. For questions about "why was my pdf file deleted?" Please read Commons:Project scope#PDF and DjVu formats, Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:17, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, first thanks for answer. I thought the Category {{Category:Hans and Sophie Scholl} and sub-Category Category:Geschwister-Scholl-Gedenkstein in Ruhland‎ are in Commons. The Wikipedia-page "Geschwister Scholl" contains the Link Template:Commonscat, and I must follow this path. So my question is, how restricted is the explanation on relationships between the categorized pictures and perhaps between sub-Categories, i.e. text and perhaps links, in a Commons-sub-Category ? If its strong restricted and I need the relationship's explanation: (how) can I link a Wikipedia-page into small explanation instead of complex text in a Commons-sub-Category ? (The linking of Commons-objects (e.g. pictures or Categorys) "up" to Wikipedia is clear, but linking "down" a Wikipedia-page to a Commons-sub-Category to avoid complex explanations (text) - dont know, how and if its possible at all). If the explanation text in a Commons-sub-Category is allowed, I need no pdf. "downlinked" Information from Wikipedia may be helpful, if possible. Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: What language do you speak as a native? I'd like to find a ______-speaking Administrator to help you. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, my native language is german - in my User-"profile" are the Categories: User de User de-N User en User en-1 May be ChrisiPK is what you seek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk • contribs) 22:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC) Greetings Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: Yes, ChrisiPK or JuTa perhaps could help? I apologize, I have no German at all with with to help. I always ask people about their languages instead of making the assumption! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:19, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, once more thanks for answer (or investigation). The pdf was occasion, the source of the problem seems to be in the border region to Wikipedia. So the title of further discussion could (or should) be changed . . . Quite right, my questions are in Commons, because of the existing categories tree for the ("my" 4) objects clearly is here. I could seek a solution with a page in Wikikedia, but then I ignore the category tree, and I fear then in Wikipedia it will be no good categorization - with respect to priority and comparability of the objects. Therefor its a borderline case. So I tried to explain the problem to ChrisiPK in german to find an anwer, if its allowed to discribe relationships between named objects respectively her Commons-sub-categories in the sub-categories or in a page and redirect these information in these Commons-sub-categories. May be this will be out of Scope in Commons - or will for this case educative text or a link in a Commons-sub-category be admissible ? Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

The mama cat

Here she is just a few minutes ago: File:Feral cat eating 2016.JPG. I got her and the other two some proper bowls a while back. The black one looks like its eye is going to be fine. INeverCry 23:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad she's ok!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tintin et Capitaine Haddock (graffiti).jpg

Hello. Thank you for closing this DR. Please note that Belgium has now FOP (since July 15th), so the question of the copyright is not relevant any more. That is why I asked the deletion for quality reasons. Best regards, BrightRaven (talk) 09:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

no evidence for own work, COM:OTRS required

Dear Ellin,

I uploaded some graphics in the german wikipedia "Wildunfälle". You can see the list in the photo I added. I think the problem ist the evidence for my own work. The login "Jagdexperte" is made by "Deutscher Jagdverband". So I am really the creator of the graphics and they are free to download on: http://www.jagdverband.de/. Is it possible to accept, that Jagdexperte ist the owner of the graphics or what can I do to avoid these problems, even with the other photos in the list. Thanks for helping me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagdexperte (talk • contribs) 10:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Jagdexperte,

I am not an administrator, so I cannot see the deleted photos, but Ellin is an administrator, and administrators can see the deleted photos. You do not have to upload a screenshot to show a list of deleted photos. Ellin can see them automatically. Also, if you can prove that you created the graphics and the photos, they will appear again (an administrator can do that, so you do not have to upload them again). But I see some problems. For example, File:Sicherheit bei Jagd.jpg says "Quelle: Mross/DJV" (Source: Mross/DJV). So, I suppose that picture was taken by Mross for DJV. But File:Jäger auf dem Hochsitz.jpg says "Quelle: Kapuhs/DJV" here [2]. So, I suppose that picture was taken by Kapuhs for DJV. The graphic File:Aufprallgewicht.jpg says "Quelle: DJV" here [3]. So I believe these images were taken by different people, at least more than one person, not just you. I think you need permission from those people to have the pictures here on Commons. I see this email address on DJV: ... for (Torsten Reinwald). Maybe he can help. But please wait for Ellin to reply to you. Good luck... Dontreader (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jagdexperte: The images were taken down from view because there was no indication of user's own work. There is no way to tell that Jagdexperte is also Torsten Reinwald without Mr. Reinwald following the instructions at COM:OTRS. I am sure you understand that people can say "I made this, and I own the website" but only by using COM:OTRS can we verify that. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)