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== Error message at last step without indication where ==
I just uploaded over 20 images, writing all the entries per hand. At the end before publishing I got an error message, but without any indication where. An emotional rollercoaster took place before I found two images with identical names. Do I recall wrong, that errors were once marked in red? It is really hard to find an error in a list that is several monitor heights long. [[User:MenkinAlRire|MenkinAlRire]] ([[User talk:MenkinAlRire|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
:+1 --[[User:PantheraLeo1359531|PantheraLeo1359531 😺]] ([[User talk:PantheraLeo1359531|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:MenkinAlRire|MenkinAlRire]] Hi, thanks for your message, and I'm sorry for never replying to you before now, but for some reason I never got this notification. Anyway, this is a bug we're working on, but we didn't find a solution yet. Hopefully I will let you know more in the next couple of weeks, I'll try to push a bit harder for its solution. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]]: Nice. Thank you for your answer. (I didn't expect an imidiate answer; I had written on several issues) [[User:MenkinAlRire|MenkinAlRire]] ([[User talk:MenkinAlRire|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::Can you provide a link to the "bug" that you mentioned "we're working on" please. Also provide a link to any related Phab ticket(s). Thank you @[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]]. Also pinging @[[User:MenkinAlRire|MenkinAlRire]] & @[[User:PantheraLeo1359531|PantheraLeo1359531]]. [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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::::@[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]]- Thank you for sharing that the status of this bug is "no progress." However, you didn't answer my question above to provide a Phab ticket link (or any other link) documenting what you had already wrote that, "this is a bug we're working on." -- [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] The ticket is that one, and is currently on the board of the Structured Content team, that is still evaluating what to do. When there will be changes, it will be reflected on the ticket. No changes so far means that we're still evaluating what to do. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]], Ok, and thank you. I had seen in Phabricator, the problem description and your placement of this Phab ticket within the "Structured-Data-Backlog" '''back on October 4th.''' I did not see any newer comments or "updates," since October 4th. The original feedback about Upload Wizard bug was added '''on August 5th.''' So, this is almost a 4 month old problem.
::::::<u>A suggestion</u>: Can you or one of the ''Structured Content team'' members add, at least monthly, updates to each UW-related Phabricator task, even if that means "still evaluating" the problem or bug?
::::::<u>A suggestion</u>: Could you please add a "dashboard" to the top of this '''Commons:Upload Wizard feedback''' page? Place at the top all currently <u>open</u> Phab tickets related to Upload Wizard. This would help visitors here to quickly see the current "bugs" or problems that are being worked on by the Structured Content team. It will make it easier for visitors to this feedback page to determine the status and existence of tickets of all '''open''' UW-related Phab tickets. -- [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] There is already a link to UploadWizard's Phabricator tickets, so I don't think I can add another Phab board. SC's board is also relative to things other than UploadWizard, and it can create confusion for readers.
:::::::As for the updates, IMHO is preferable to have updates when possible, and accept the fact that no comments or updates means that the prep work is still ongoing.
:::::::I know this is a 4-months problem looking for an answer, but just a few hours ago [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376455#10359755 there was an analysis in production] of the problem, so things are finally moving. I promise I'll keep you posted about this and that I will do my best to have a solution ASAP. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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i dont get it. how was it possible to upload to such similar filenames? [[User:RZuo|RZuo]] ([[User talk:RZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)▼
▲{{Phab|T376595}}
▲:Hi @[[User:Nova|Nova]], thanks for your message. I'll open a Phabricator ticket about it and will let you know. Probably it's going to take some time, though. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm trying to upload one of my photos, and every time, it jams at "Processing files". Is there something wrong with the upload system at the moment, or might my photo be corrupted in some way? I've never had this happen before. Thanks! - [[User:MPF|MPF]] ([[User talk:MPF|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I've been trying to upload a few pictures for an hour now without success. I waited several minutes "in a queue"; after that, the upload failed with the message "server did not respond within the expected time.". The old form [[:File:Budynek Gorczańskiego Ośrodka Historii Turystyki Górskiej na Turbaczu, 20241019 1142 6248.jpg|works for me]], but it is very inconvenient. I use Chrome browser with "Old Vector (2010) skin." I have also tried Vector (2022) - but it does not work either. -- [[User:Jakubhal|Jakubhal]] 17:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:<s>Is [[:File:Hala_Turbacz_w_Gorcach,_20241019_1119_6238.jpg]] the file in question</s> (Edit: nevermind, i see some attempts from earlier
:: {{pinging|Jakubhal}}. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 15:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
::: I don't remember the exact time (minutes). I tried multiple times on Tuesday, 29th of October, between 17:30 and 19:30 CET. It was [[:File:Czoło Turbacza w Gorcach, 20241019 1115 6233.jpg]] - finally, it uploaded but with an error (I have to add a caption and structured data later separately). Before that, I have also tried a couple of times with [[:File:Budynek Gorczańskiego Ośrodka Historii Turystyki Górskiej na Turbaczu, 20241019 1142 6248.jpg]] but gave up and upload it using the old form. The next morning, the problem did not reoccur, and I uploaded multiple files without any problems. I noticed that during my Tuesday attempt, there was some massive upload ongoing by one of the bots, so maybe it was a temporary overload, but it was still very inconvenient for me to share my work ---- [[User:Jakubhal|Jakubhal]] 20:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
== Missing (description) page after Upload ==
I uploaded the file [[:File:Gračac (HR), Grab -- 2022 -- 0171.jpg]] via Upload Wizard on 2024-11-11. Today I [[File talk:Gračac (HR), Grab -- 2022 -- 0171.jpg|was informed]], that the file does not have a description page – or any associated page at all. I have checked other files I uploaded using the Upload Wizard, particularly from the same batch upload, and I couldn't find any other instances of this issue. Does anyone have an idea what might have caused this problem? [[User:A. Öztas|A. Öztas]] ([[User talk:A. Öztas|talk]]) 21:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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:@[[User:A. Öztas|A. Öztas]] The file looks good now, so probably the bug was fixed meanwhile. Anyway I took note of @[[User:RoyZuo|RoyZuo]]'s ticket, and put that on the devs' radar. I hope this will be picked up soon. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Sannita (WMF)}} I created the page [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Gračac_(HR),_Grab_--_2022_--_0171.jpg&oldid=964404816 yesterday], it was not due to a bugfix. [[User:A. Öztas|A. Öztas]] ([[User talk:A. Öztas|talk]]) 13:58, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:A. Öztas|A. Öztas]] I see... I'll add your page to the list of problematic files. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] In the phabricator page, it might be useful to add a link to the results of [[quarry:query/88395|the query]] by Wurgl which lists 380 files affected. The problem may not be specific to the Upload Wizard. Files uploaded with other tools seem affected also. -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] Thank you, I'll insert this immediately. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] Also, I just found the list at [[User:Achim55/Files without file pages]], which might be more useful because Achim55 updates it a few times each month since April 2023 and the history shows the evolution of the situation. -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks, adding this one too. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
:For info: See also [[Commons:Help desk#Something is wrong with this image]]. -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
== Caption: mobile user experience ==
I often upload batches (10-50) from my phone. I'd like to share a user's point of view and logic behind how i use it.
#i dont like apps if browser will do, so i dont use any mobile apps e.g. [[Commons:Mobile app]].
#on android, i use opera, instead of chrome, coz opera has a floating icon to scroll to top or bottom when page is long.
#i use the mobile version https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard , not the desktop version.
#i dont connect my phone to computer, or sync my photos to google drive or other cloud storage, to then make use of computer for upload, coz it's more work. i find mobile upload sufficiently efficient so i avoid that more work.
#here comes the problem with caption (same problem for title and description). because i upload in batches, it's simply anti-user if i were to type a different caption according to what each image actually shows.
##the thumbnail is small, so i cant see clearly what the image shows.
##i avoid switching between the browser and my files app to check the image, coz sometimes doing so will make the browser refresh the page = all work gone.
##the input fields are all cumbersome. if i type something longer than the field, then it's hard to move cursor back and forth in case i need to edit.
##i avoid working on description in the wizard, just in case any glitch or refresh wipes out the work, so i want to get to the submit step asap.
#so i end up giving a brief caption (coz it's required), which is usually the city where the batch was taken. and i dont bother unchecking the box (description same as caption) coz i dont want that extra work. (then i copy all info to all files. then i edit and tweak a little bit for special photos, but not for every single one, coz the wizard is really cumbersome to scroll up and down.)
#all the extra work is avoided coz even though it might only take seconds or a minute each time, for users who upload hundreds or thousands of batches, that extra time adds up.
#from my point of view, i have the photos uploaded with sufficient descriptions, i'm happy and done. some problems with caption / description? not a big deal for me.
I think it's worse to have a generic and not so relevant caption than a description. if i upload a photo of a building, with description "London", technically it's correct coz it's located in london, but the pic doesnt show london but only a building, so the caption "London" is arguably wrong. titles (filenames) are not so important and not meant to function like description anyway so it's not a problem.
Just sharing, in case in future you wonder '''why sdc is "polluted" with generic captions'''. I guess I'm not the only user whose habit evolved to this.--[[User:RoyZuo|RoyZuo]] ([[User talk:RoyZuo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:RoyZuo|RoyZuo]] Thanks for these insights, very helpful. I'll raise them with our designer, to see if we can include this in our next steps. [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
== Applause for the Upload Wizard ==
You've packed so much information into this delightful little "job aid" ... thank you so much. Although I wish there were additional guidance on what we have to do when copyrights are involved, this is great as far as it goes. Hope in time to see most all the other things that editors have to learn spelled out as clearly — and cutely — as this.
Speaking as both a still somewhat new editor with much to learn ''and'' an instructional designer. 💛 [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] Thanks a lot for your feedback! I'll pass it on to the team. :) [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== Images for loading files? ==
At various steps in the process, a sort of preview of the file is shown on the left. As a Wikisourcerer, I often deal with large files, and their previews understandably take some time to load. When they're loading, in the stead of this preview, is only a thin gray bar, looking something like this: <hr style="width:2em;border-style:none solid;border-width:6px"/> Would it be possible to put something to show that something is loading there, e.g. some sort of loading gif? — [[User:Alien333|Alien]] [[User talk:Alien333|<b style="display:inline-block;line-height:100%;font-size:60%;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#007,#077,#070);background-clip:text;color:transparent"> 3<br/>3 3</b>]] 13:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:Nothing is visible to me after "something like this". Is the code supposed to be <hr style="width:2em;border-style: solid;border-width:6px"/>? [[User:Whym|whym]] ([[User talk:Whym|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::No, it is supposed to be a very, very thin gray bar, a few ems wide, with darker edges. Maybe you need to zoom in a bit to see it. — [[User:Alien333|Alien]] [[User talk:Alien333|<b style="display:inline-block;line-height:100%;font-size:60%;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#007,#077,#070);background-clip:text;color:transparent"> 3<br/>3 3</b>]] 10:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I needed to change my MediaWiki skin to the default one. It looks like it was because of the <nowiki><hr></nowiki> styling given by the Timeless skin I use.
:::Do you want to [[mw:How to report a bug|report]] it? Adding the file size and wifi speed might help. [[User:Whym|whym]] ([[User talk:Whym|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Whym|Whym]]: General spead of uploading to the Internet would be the key factor here, followed closely by the downloading speed. https://www.speedtest.net/ reports the uploading speed off the bat, but on https://fast.com/ I have to click "Show more info". — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 12:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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